FYI
Bambu Ceramic Bypass fittings:
So I somehow missed it because its down in the description, not up top anywhere, and easy to miss. The ceramic Bypass for the AMS 3H at $6.99 is a pack of 5. I ordered 4, so now I have 20, lol
Are we still on target for the backorder shipping estimate of 11/30?
Depending on where you are and where you bought, yes and no.
My friend bought his H3C from Bambu with the estimated date around the 20th, his printer just got a tracking number.
I bought my printer from igo3d, a German 3rd party vendor and they still have no allocation to this day. Which is quite a bummer.
Either the QC sorts out a lot of printers that are made or bambu rushed that thing out to leave enough spacing for the P3C, giving them too little stock for the release.
I don’t feel deflated at all. I was ready to buy on day one if it met my needs/desires as I saw them to be, but it doesn’t. And I am still ECSTATIC about this printer!!!
What?!??
I do not myself see the items you called out as problems or steps back. Whatever “true” “toolchanger” I get, I will not be using it in such a way as to have to deal with any of these items enough to find them a concern. So does that make you wrong? Me right? Objectively? --No.
Just because a feature or technology exists, doesn’t mean it must be installed in every model after that. It’s not that way with any other market of product. Turbo is great (my opinion…don’t get sidetracked) but not every vehicle put out going forward has Turbocharging. It’s not a step back, it’s a design/purpose/price bracket choice. Bambu has delivered a printer that I think reaches a broad section of the market when it comes to the tradeoff realities that manufacturers must make in the real world. I just don’t (currently) happen to be in the slice of the market. Yes they made choices different people disagree with but the manufacturer is the one making the product, the manufacturer gets to toggle the variables, and then the market will decide (not with our whiny bitchy mouths, but with our MONEY) how well they took their shot.
If I’m betting, I think Bambu has dropped a Banger. A World Class offering. I really hope other companies can do the same. I want them ALL around.
[Note, this is aside from issues with devices in use. The idea of INDX is great. It’s implementation sure generates…discussion.
And not to be partisan: The AMS2Pro is great. Except for folks having to deal with constant jams and errors…]
I am thrilled about the H3C because overall, I see it as a fantastic balance of innovation/feature choices/price bracketing/fit within their portfolio and its prospective market position.
The H3C may be Bambu’s NEWEST flagship printer, but that does not make it their only flagship CLASS printer available. I love my H2C. It also never was the perfect printer for me even as I was choosing it, by the way.
Now, the P3C is seemingly on the horizon. If Bambu decides to carry over enough of the features from the H3C and their other printers that I’m looking for… I’ll buy that one on day one. (Biggest reason I didn’t buy the H3C is exactly that… biggest. It is too much printer for what I want in a tool changer.)
If the P3C doesn’t fit my needs, nothing has changed for me from the day before, and I’m sure Bambu will go on and sell shiploads of them! And cheers to them for it.
Any new h3c users had to replace parts or service machines yet? Curious on repairability.
I was curious about that as well. Usually we see a hand full. However it hasnt been a week yet and Bambu takes 3 days to get back tou. I havent seen posts about issues yet. Mine so far has been awesome. I still need to test a bunch of features out.
Would it be possible to dry the whole compartment of the AMS or a part of it like the 4 even positions?
Honestly, the H3C is just way better than the H2C or H2D because it basically does everything. Multicolor printing on the H2C is super slow and TPU performance isn’t great, while the H2D is pretty limited with just two toolheads. So why pay almost the same price for both of those printers??
But that’s besides the point—I’m actually curious about what technical improvements we can expect next. Swapping toolheads seems like the best solution right now since it’s fast and handles any material. Where do we go from here? I think with the H3C or the P3C you have a perfect printer which does almost everything for the next years.
I know two people that bought an H2D and H2D Pro last couple of days, and the decision had nothing to do with the price …
OK that’s fair enough. I’ll wait for the pro version of the ams to come out before buying.
I still love my H2D.
-Its easy to swap nozzles
-I can have a bunch of filaments all drying at the same time.
Other than that the H3C can do everything else and then some.
The bypass is much easier for loading stiff filaments ( I still need to spend some time on this and test PPA when I’m back home.
I’m most likely going to have my nozzles set up so I’m not swapping anything often. I can just choose the setup I need and place the filament in the spot. I mostly use 2 filaments at a time now but with the tool changer, and mixed nozzles size capability I will be using 3 -5 filaments for my functional prints more. Now I’m more inclined to print small text and maybe color code certain things for quick identification, even if its a dot with a color for reference now that its not a big deal.
My setup so far is for ease of use for my workflow. I have a taller work bench and the back 4 slots I need a step stool. The front 5 I can easily load without a stool. So those will be my main used slots. I will dry most stuff in my other AMS or my drying oven for my engineering filaments.
Bays (1, 3, 5, 7) 0.4mm HF nozzles
Bay (2) 0.2mm Nozzle
Bay (4) Is either going to be standard 0.4 or 0.6. I want to test and see how the 0.6 might work into some of my parts for stronger infill (or other TPUs/PEBA) and if I like it.
Bay (9) 2.85mm for TPU
Bay (6,8) Heated Section: will have 0.4HF
Swapping nozzles isn’t hard, it just sucks with the very small screws and my eyes now that I’m over 40 isn’t helping, lol.
That makes sense, and it’s great that Bambu offers a whole range of printers for every use case now. But if you’re a private hobby maker like me who can only afford one printer, the math is a bit different. I use mine for small projects, designing and prototyping parts for other businesses, or printing gifts and decorations for birthdays and weddings.
Looking at it from that perspective, I don’t really see why an H2D, H2S, or even an H2C would be a better choice right now than my reliable P1S. With a few upgrades, my P1S handles everything from multicolor prints to ASA, ABS, Nylon, and even Carbon Fiber materials perfectly. The H2 series is quite expensive, so why would anyone choose one of those models today when the H3C can do absolutely everything?
See, you start by acknowledging not everyone has the same needs…. And yet you end by refusing to acknowledge that very fact, “why would anyone”. Make it make sense.
If you don’t think the H2D/C is a meaningful upgrade over P1S for your own use case, that’s perfectly valid. But that has 0 bearings on if that holds true for everyone. If you want to comment on something “why would anyone”, think for everyone, not just your own scenarios.
Maybe you should consider the H3C has shortcomings, lost flexibilities, lost utility over H2D/C.
Maybe the expected P3C could fit your budget better then.
Fair point, you caught me there! I probably phrased that “why would anyone” a bit too broadly. You’re totally right that everyone has different needs.
What I actually meant is that from a purely technical standpoint today, if someone is looking at the current lineup, the H3C just seems to overshadow the older models. I’m genuinely curious: what are the actual advantages, shortcomings, or lost flexibilities you mentioned? What exactly does the H2D do better than the H3C that justifies picking it right now? I’d love to understand the other side of it!
I ordered one. A year ago, Bambu Lab was pretty much way behind the industry - and they closed the gap and became the leader again in that year.
I have a Sovol M1D on the way, but I’m selling that before I even unbox it.
Congratulations, Bambu. You reclaimed the summit.
No offence intended … but clearly you did not read the other 400+ posts in this thread as we discussed the H3C shortcoming in detail. If you are interested in an answer to your question, just scroll up and read.
It may be a week or 4 before I get my hands on one to start testing this stuff from my perspective though, but my intention is to print a huge PPS container that fits into the “storage” spot and/or a “desiccant spool”. Reason being that I can then shove the whole PPS component with desiccant straight into a toaster oven at 200C for regen.
Perhaps you might do the same with that 3A?
It seems to be approximately like the other AMS units where it has a seal around the lid. Looks to me like you can shove a massive amount of desiccant into the thing.
Lol thats exactly what I did for my AMS 2 and HTs. PPS works great and I don’t have to deal pouring the beads in and out.
That stuff really opens up a lot of possibility in the homebrew space for drying systems that I would take advantage of if I had sufficient motivation.