I think they have something here that can already do such small and detailed prints there would be no need to. I think they will go bigger and try to get color change quicker.
I think you should look at the Nexa3D Xip printer. Fastest LSPc resin printer in the class. Fraction of the time I think most people think of⌠when one says slow resin 3D printer.
Those that say thereâs no opportunity for differentiation or no new design that significantly outperforms the competition is incorrect.
They Better not, I just Purchased a Uniformation GKTwo
But there does need to be a serious kick in the pants in the Resin printing Industry
Well speed is not what made a bambu appealing to me. It was reliability and print consistency.
If they could created a resin printer with a built in heater, a built in carbon filter, develop a good resin management and recapture process, create some sort of machine learning ai camera to ensure prints are developing properly, and finally incorporate the firmware into the existing bambu environment, they could have something. If they can also make a revolutionary uv exposure and rinse system, I think they could again disrupt the market.
Imo for bambu to truly be successful long term, I think they should offer enterprise level support where you pay for expedited realtime customer support or wait 48hrs for normal consumer support.
These seem very bambu in execution and function
A resin printer in development, that like the Bambu series did with FDM, is getting set to put the resin printing industry on its ear is the Athena.
Will be about the same as the X1C in price, but the features . . . . . WOW! See links at bottom.
And BTW, saying a FDM printer at 0.8 is the same quality as a resin. It just isnât true. For high details, I print at a 20 micron layer height. Mid range detail is 50 microns, not 800 microns. For a single miniature, Bambu is faster, but when you can put 30+ miniatures on a single plate for some of the larger resin printers, you get that time back as it doesnât take any longer to print 30 than it does 1.
Off the top of my head, companies that do both MSLA resin and FDM (consumer / prosumer):
Elegoo
Anycubic
Prusa
Creality
Longer
Athena developers website
https://www.concepts3d.ca/
Youtube video
Athen 3D printer (Epic Potential)
got me the p1s this xmas, it was my first 3d printer.
i watched 3d print videos for maybe 10 years but never really needed oneâŚ
also i always thought if i would get one i would get me a resin printerâŚ
but since i didnt wanted to deal with the fumes and the mess of resin i went with a fdm for the begining firstâŚ
now after two month i love my bambu but some figures just cant be done, also if they somehow manage to get done they need alot more work to paintâŚ
i came to the conclusion i will also get me a resin printer for stuff i plan on painting! resin is alot easier to grind and paint than fdm! also more detailsâŚ
i will probably get me a resin printer in june⌠if bambu would come out with something similar to the saturn 3 ultra i would def go the bambu route
if bambu ever make one pls make something similar to the saturn ultra 3 but add a chamber heater, a ressin heater , normal doors no lifting top partâŚ
Not quite the same thing. In SLA (a laser beam like my Formlabs printer) or mSLA (an LCD panel like the many low cost printers on the market now), the print is formed in a bath of resin thatâs exposed selectively to UV light to cure it. This process can never do color, because thereâs no way to control the mixing of pigments in the resin tray. You can do full color by mixing dyes with clear resin, but thatâs it. Itâll never be able to do color like this Stratasys printer. Square peg, round hole. Fundamentally incompatible technology.
The Stratasys printer is not SLA. It uses resin, but it uses it like FDM. The resin is âprintedâ with an inkjet-type printhead and cured layer by layer. It delivers a much higher resolution than you could hope to achieve with FDM, and because itâs basically an inkjet printer, it can do colors like an inkjet printer.
Cool technology. Someone who has a business making miniatures might find this cost-effective. Canât imagine itâs all that cheap to paint things by hand. But for $99000, I suspect itâs out of the price range of most of us so for all practical purposes it doesnât âexistâ.
Resin is messy but it has less moving parts and can easily achieve digital level perfection due to the fact that it doesnât need to consider speed, acceleration and inertia.
Itâs got a lot of pain points at the moment but thatâs exactly what I hope Bambu would be able to bring to the table just like what they did for FDM printers.
Besides it has gotten a lot better than before in recent years. In terms of speed itâs actually faster than FDM with 0.2 nozzle because it prints the entire layer in one go so the time spent is fixed regardless how big or how complex the model is.
Yes, Iâd like to see Bambu do the same thing with resin like how they did with FDM. Theyâd probably stir the resin printer market a lot with their innovations.
Pretty sure it wouldnât be a good idea.
Over the past few years innovation has sped up. Speed is nice but Iâd rather go slow and get a great detailed print than say "this finished in an hour and is okish. Speed resin just canât do that yet.
Elegooâs tipping vat is great. Anycubics vat heating method is inventive and cool. There are others that are doing heating much differently. Thankfully theyâre paying attention to that need. Pumps are cool too, but a bit slower. Iâd rather have soemthing to pump resin out of the vat.
Where it really needs to get moving is lowering the toxicity of resin and making it safer. Easier to clean and recycle alcohol or better less flammable and smelly mediums for cleaning. Water is great, still same waste issues.
I agree there really isnât anything in it for Bambu. The refresh cycle is around a year. Thatâs a lot to put into a printer division with all the current compitition. Thereâs headroom in FDM, room to innovate and I feel thatâs where BL should keep theyâre focus.
Just my 2 cents.
Totally agree, one major reason I wonât get into resin is the toxicity and amount of PPE needed etc. We see how easily derailed a BL printer can be, I shudder to imagine that in this realm.
Waterbased acrylic paint was a great step forward but Iâm still careful with it.
Yeah, but you canât beat a good oil wash, lol
I see what you mean. Except for speed, I feel that Bambu can make a really innovational resin printer. Bambu always gives us a surprise, right? Before the X1 series we never expected those extra stuff Bambu gave us. Who knows?
I also get that there is a lot of space for improvement in FDM. We can now only wait. Because again, we can never expect whatâs Bambuâs gonna give us.
Thing Iâm worried about is that other companies are getting nearer and nearer to Bambu, and their sales arenât exactly improving. This might cause a chain reaction that without enough extra money itâs harder to make better printers, and without innovation Bambu is losing to the other companies.
Anyway, good luck Bambu!
Same thing is happening to all printer manufacturers. They get a bump with a new product release but then flatten fairly quickly. It takes a major step in innovation to get a 2 year sales boom like BL did.
So far, all the other manufacturers are doing, is trying to catch up to BL. The only one with any newer innovations I see, while remaining somewhere in the price range, is the Phrozen Arco. That has now been delayed until mid 2025. Thatâs the issue with new innovation, You think youâre close to launch and then an issue pops up that takes major work to fix.
I hope they do, I am putting off buying another resin printer in the hope they might make an announcement this year.
I have a couple of BBL fdm printers, fantastic machines but if anyone thinks they can compare the quality of print between an fdm and resin they in my humble opinion are nuts.
Resin printers are not only faster but far superior as far as quality print is concerned. Ya sure messy but I will put up with the messy and get a large resin print in under 10 hours than waiting 48 hours for a maybe will print and get to possibly 60% quality.
I would not hold my breath.
In some instances a .2 can do some pretty good detail. No it wonât match resin, but for tabletop or some model building it does fairly well.
I donât agree they are so much faster. There are a lot of variables, and to get the fastest speed youâre printing at .1 layer height. Again, speed < quality.
I have an M7 Pro along with the P1S, each are useful in their own right. Iâve printed models (Star Destroyer) using the FDM. The one issue were the smaller cannon, which I used resin for. On the flip side Iâve printed some nice busts and figures but have printed the bases on FDM. Smarter and takes less time. Once a base is painted you wouldnât be able to tell between each printer.
Resin is also a PITA for straight geometric shapes and flat surfaces. Providing support means paying attention to a lot of factors than just overhang. You can go quick if you want zits all over the part.
BL wonât be doing resin any time soon, even then I donât think they could keep up. The next cycle is around the corner and it doesnât even last a year.
Others have already entered the higher end niche, with some pretty impressive stuff. It all needs to mature a bit but I just donât see BL competing in that market.
Resin of course has its own set of problems, but resolution really isnât one of them.
Speed being faster than FDM is irrefutable. Resin will print a full volume in the same amount of time its a known quantity. whether you print one or many models the time of printing doesnât change.
FDM add a model you double and a little more to the print time, populate the build plate and you multiply the print time many times over.
Resin does not suffer from that.
I use FDM for functional parts and never for models. Post processing with FDM is horrible, granted do they print better than several years ago, hands down yes.
As good close in print quality to Resin, not by a county mile yet, though who knows that may change.
First, I apologize. I misunderstood your meaning when stating the resin is faster. Yes, for multiple models the resin can be faster.
I agree that FDM is as good in quality as resin, but itâs gaining. However there will come a point (and itâs close now) where the gains end.
I think though, youâd be surprised at the quality of detail you can get from an FDM. Itâs passable for everyday use and those without access to a resin printer can make some very nice models with it.
As for post, Iâll take FDM over resin any day. Most times setup as well.