No I wouldn’t, it took a principal dev team lead being the rudest i’ve ever seen him - and he’s an extremely polite person - to get the support techs to stop arguing with us when we’d punt customer tickets back to them with “this is a layer 1 networking problem, stop bothering us”
they wanted to blame software for clear hardware level networking issues.
edit: a certain user sent me private messages to trash talk, he’s a side show
I have legacy mode flipped on on the router just for the bambu printers (hey, Bambu actively lowering security again!)
It makes no sense,… until you find out that protocol is still the most used in… China
I think it’s just naivety on the part of bambu, no RJ45 is another obvious omission
The argument needs to be (and is) over only supporting an aging protocol and not even supporting out of the box modern routers which DOES effect the average end user.
We no longer buy printers without an RJ45 connection!
X1e has an ethernet port, fact the h2d doesnt is next level hubris. Many labs, corp and edu environments dont have 2.4ghz enabled for security reasons. Bambu will kearn they missed tbe mark and release an h2de in 6 months with ethernet. Ill check then. Otherwise for a $2k printer, wifi4 ia a deal breaker for me. So im keeping my powder dry. Watch all h2d clones come out with variations on the lifting toolhead, based on klipper and with ethernet. Then no reason to bother with bambu. No one asked for a laser. Thats just stupid. My x1c is discolored just from abs fumes.
Give it a full body bath. After all that work, I think it deserves it, at least now and then.
Agreed for IOT devices and yes, printers are classified as IOT but when we talk about IOT data we are usually talking about Kb/s of data being transmitted where wifi 4 is fine but, IOT security cams transmit 5-10Mb/s which is why they use at least wifi 5.
We are talking about sending as much as 50+ GB of data to a printer, using wifi 4??? That’s just stupid and cheap with lack of consideration for the user.
The P1S has absolutely horrible wireless speed, around 2Mb/s which makes the X1C seems pleasingly fast by that standard. A Wifi 5 card is not really expensive my any means but they probably get, or make, their Wifi 4 cards for pennies…
I AGREE with OP, spending over $2000+ for a machine using wifi 4 is pathetic…
I think a real issues is we do not have a reversable door on the machine. WiFi so, I hit the button and it works. Little flag say it is done I walk to the work shop. Go back to my office and at some point send a new print and it works. do not care how fast it transmits that file. I do not need to walk to the back of the house and into the shop. Things that would be nice, actual power button on the front to turn it fully off. Also have it turn of the internal lighting if not printing. Last set exposer for lighting before the printing for those that keep the light off when not in use. tired of washed out images when printing white. As for WiFi… Don’t car as long as it works when I hit the button to print.
As an engineer, I am completely unsurprised by your assertion. It’s true.
Now, the thing is, the maintenance tech is probably smarter about their specific domain than the newbie engineer. But some of us with gray in our hair, well, we’ve seen a lot in our careers, so maybe, just maybe, those techs should actually listen to what we say.
This is so they can sell the H2E later at a higher price, with “enterprise” features such as ethernet and faster WiFi.
Denidil, you might in your mind be some skilled network engineer but from a practically point of view you are clueless in your findings.
This device is not sending social security numbers/credit card transactions to require the security you think it needs. It’s laughable reading your comments on network security for this type of device.
WPA2 is weak and that means your network can be breached not just the inflight transmission between the STA and the AP. Being able to potentially obtain session keys means that an attacker can get on your network as if they had the wifi password which means access to all device on your network. You can mitigate this by using client device isolation on an IoT SSID for your printer or putting your printer on an entire separate VLAN (both of these cause you lose direct LAN connection functionality without more advanced ACLs).
That addresses absolutely nothing about the other issues I brought up: reliability (the main issue here) and performance (or more specifically how a slow device increases congestion on your network and can slow down other devices). They advertised the X1C as being able to do live view, but by putting such crappy networking on it it cannot always deliver that promised functionality.
Maybe you shouldn’t lead your comment with trying to disparage the knowledge of others when you immediately then demonstrate your own lack of knowledge.
That is a bummer to hear. My X1C is useless since my office “upgraded” the wifi, sad to hear the H2D won’t be any better. It takes several tries to send a print to the X1C next to me but I have no issues sending a print to my P1S at home. I had hoped for a better wireless experience.
the H2D does have 5Ghz so it is slightly better.
i rigged an exterior antenna on my X1C and it improved the reception so the connection is more stable but still crappy.
That is good to know, thank you!
I’m still hoping this project with an RJ-45 port turns out well…
we shouldn’t have to use 3P firmware and $130 add on cards to get a <$0.50 part
Production Expander units are here! I have a lot of work in front of me to assemble them. I’ll write an update soon. It’s not too late to buy one!
If anyone cracks the firmware on H2D, though, you could conceivably use a USB ethernet dongle, no Expander needed.
As the person who has spent more time with X1’s internal architecture than probably anyone else outside of Shenzhen / Shanghai – and, also, as someone who was on a team that taped out silicon in his previous role! – this is an extremely funny and extremely incorrect take
Sounds like a you problem. I have no issues streaming the live video over WiFi to my laptop. I even use the stream in my OBS for streaming to Twitch and there’s no delay or stuttering. It may be old tech but it’s well proven and works reliably.
Blaming someone else for the RF environment they have to deal with is a really ignorant take.
Sorry I live in a city, bro.
On 5Ghz i’m literally the only person in radio range with the nicer APs that can use the DFS sections of 5Ghz. Not my fault that the entire 80Mhz of available 2.4Ghz spectrum is shared by wifi, bluetooth, zigbee, microwaves, cordless phones, etc etc etc.
i rigged an external antenna and it got a lot better so not only is the “2.4ghz only” a problem but they even included a crappy antenna to boot.