But they don’t have a real photograph as a preview image. (my God) Shame on you. Here too, the prints will not achieve the same surface quality as a render. Or do you want to deny that?
We’ll see. Call it simple, just call it an extrusion… Success means being right in what you do. That’s how it is and no other way. And many printer owners are looking for exactly such “everyday objects” and don’t want to print another pirated copy of a Spiderman figure or a stolen Star Wars logo and put it in their closet. There are more than enough of them here too. These are, for example, serious violations of licensing rights. But you don’t seem to be taking that too seriously here.
“My man”. you clearly are out of touch because, atleast me, i am always reporting those said fake or stolen models. As i report, people report me too. That is life. But i won’t let my creativity go down the drain for some clout or just to be “known”. I prefer simplicity too, but with creativity involved.
I stand for what is right not for what is beautiful. For that there is instagram where there is not a useful thing but all is beautiful.
And btw, some of your starting models were great. You just let your “greed” take over and that messed your creativity in your recent models.
Dude, I’ll give props. This isn’t just designers hating on designers. The issues I bring up are things that bother me from a consumer’s perspective. That bother me from a customer’s perspective. I really feel it’s cheap when I see AI generated images used to showcase a model. It doesn’t build trust in me. Just like when I see photoshoped images of products into real world situations on amazon. It makes me question the seller. I’ve had enough bad experiences where the photoshop image mislead about the actual product. I see those same mismatches when I look at these AI generated showcase images vs what is modeled.
I’d take half as much issue if you just did a render like the guys you name dropped earlier, because at least it’d be the actual model used for the print.
I agree with you completely. One question, when you buy from Amazon, do you even look at the first picture of the item you want to order? I don’t believe. You look for pictures, reviews and so on. But of course not for an article that I want to print in a few hours. Even though I respect your sometimes very exaggerated comments, 90% of the user reviews are still positive and they are happy about the printed model, which they were able to download for free and make at home. However, if I were to just sell the models, which wouldn’t be a problem with proper marketing, then I would pay in advance for a photo studio to take wonderful photos for me. But we’re at the point here. Everything is available to download for free, and you should acknowledge that somehow. I think you know that yourself.
@Docsnyder78 I honestly think you should take a hard look at the profiles that your guy has been posting. To save you a little time, they seem to have a problem aligning “fuzzy” models and plain of late. You’re somewhat insulated from this I guess and only they get the slap on the wrist, but this guy represents you?
I am in Germany too and will tell you a secret. We all work for some well known brands. I still make models of those brands for personal use. As long i don’t sell them it’s not anyones problem. I’ll just leave this here.
But please, ask BMW and then send me the answer please. Can’t wait
You are really messing things up. Comparing bananas with oranges.
I’ll quit reasoning with you. Will wait for your Bambu Lab “partner contact” to come and slap me in the wrist
Everything’s fine, I don’t want to offend anyone here. But especially as a German, you should actually know what our legal system says about pirated copies from really well-known manufacturers and brands and what the penalties are. And let’s not kid ourselves. Even if you create a keychain as a model, illegally printing a logo on it is a pirated copy. But yes, that is of course your business.
German Law: [§ 53 Absatz 6 UrhG]
This is not legal what you do.
Yes i know that Germany is known for his “karens” with the “my image rights” thing and the “you can’t do that, it’s illegal” and so on. But hey, you also can’t lie to people with false advertisement be it in videos, pictures or in paper. And well, here we are. The law is a b1tch and it works in both directions.
But really, you can make me that favour and ask if he can tell BMW about my keychain. I’ll gladly wait for the answer
Edit: should i pick up the law where it says that you can’t also lie in a product image, be it offered for free or sold? Oh karens of this world, please go away
And I turn away from products that seem to have misleading marketing. I see the same thing happen with your stuff. I looked at the printed models, the 3d previews, the user comments.
No doubt most people wont have issues, or whatever. I’m not saying the models are useless, or are completely misleading and bad. You got a bin that holds pens, it holds pens. You know… What is there to cry about?
A point on amazon reviews. You know, I purchased a vacuum sealer. I didn’t like it. I thought the way they did the controls was junk compared to other ones I’ve used. A few other issues. 50 dollar product. They offered me a full refund to take my review down. That is not the only time that has happened.
I’ve seen you in the comments of some of your models threatening to report and take down unfavorable reviews too, so.
Also, I don’t just buy those products. The misleading marketing, bad photoshops, do push me away.
So. I know you’re trying to do a gotcha-moment, but it’s just not that simple.
You don’t need to pay someone to take nice photos of your prints. It doesn’t have to be some outsourced job you can’t do yourself.
Well, technically, it’s not free. People are paying in various ways, even if the mode… okay let’s not get all smudgy like that. You’re right, it’s free. We’re putting free models out there for everyone to enjoy. That’s what is most important, right? Like I said, we’re NPCs. This isn’t misleading like scamming people out of their savings, or anything like that.
I don’t take issue with your models, of themselves. You make housewares which is a very popular category and a lot of people have uses for those types of practical models. Having more designs to choose from isn’t a bad thing.
Regardless of it being free though, I can still feel like the ai generated display images are misleading, and overall create an air of distrust for myself that makes me want to avoid your work. Maybe try and understand why I might feel that way, rather than just blindly getting defensive because you don’t like the way I feel, or that I’ve expressed that.
And I mean, that’s not to say I’m just discrediting you at the door. I’ve looked at your models and found ones I liked. That didn’t come about because of the images though, it came about because of topics like this made me dig further into your catalog. I’d rather be enticed in a more friendly manner though.
Look, i model for fun. I get points from models for material so i can make more models and print them and do that cycle over and over. That’s it.
I don’t care about any of that or Makerworld would have to close because every model posted here has a trademark or similarities with oficial products. Even your household models have similarities with the ones that IKEA sells and that’s illegal too. Just look or do a reverse image search and you’ll get a similar, if not the same, product in IKEA.
Stop being a karen and stick to the theme here, that is: generated AI pictures should be mentioned as such, just like the law in Germany obliges. You call it KI, i call it AI. There has to be a mention about it atleast to warn users that they have the possibility of the end product is not the same as pictured. Samsung does that, Apple does that, Microsoft does that, even car brands do it. Whenever they use AI, they mention it because they are obliged to it so the end user won’t be fooled and can’t use that in court in case it’s necessary.
AI is an important matter now a days but lets be real, some people can’t use it. Heck, i started using local stable diffusion years ago and i use it all the time
still, just not for models because of those defects.
I will do a pause on this conversation because i am getting thirsty and i have things to model and print.
For me it is very useful to be able to upload renderings and animations as long as they respect the dimensions and feasibility of the model, I myself often upload renderings in addition to the photos, not everyone has the equipment and space to take good photos that best represent a model.
Hello Daniel, thanks for your answer.
I don’t know why you’re answering specifically to me and my messages.
I was just pointing out that the print profiles were weird and especially the upload time. And that I didn’t understand why you would upload your print profiles from two different accounts. You give some explanations, and you’re right it’s not against the rules. But that doesn’t make lit ess weirder to my eye and there is no lie nor hateful comment nor envy behind that.
As for the pictures, you shout at the wrong messenger, I was pointing out that your Lightbox photos were real. But the ones on the wood floor LOOKED fake (not were).
But since apparently you’re also are taking the picture for the print profiles (even weirder). So I understand why you felt attacked by my comment.
But sorry that’s how they look to me. I don’t know what it is, the high contrast, the saturation, the lightning, the homogenous background… idk. It looks like cheap render. And it’s just my customer POV.
Please start, @Docsnyder78, to revise your model publications on Makerworld, in my opinion they massively violate the guidelines. I have already contacted Makerworld about this.
I thank you and appreciate it. As I said, I simply support the idea of giving people the opportunity to download and print models for free that they can do something with at home other than putting them in the display case. There is no intention to deceive behind it, whatever it may be. It’s free.
As far as I know, it is allowed as long as images of real prints are included. These are the current guidelines. If this needs to be changed, I will of course take photos myself as preview images. Then many makers will have a lot of work to do here.
It’s obviously a render, but you back it up with a bunch of real world images too. I like this approach because a clean simple render can tell a lot, and I don’t feel like I’m being tricked into some idealized version of the object.
There’s a few other guys that embrace the render, like Michele! Michele | Published - MakerWorld I really like his overall presentation.
The ones that try and push it to be photoreal, I’m a little more meh on. I mean, I commend them, it takes work and skill to make that happen, even with today’s modern tools.
It’s been interesting seeing how everyone builds up their own branding and style.
For my personal preference, I like doing my photos. I like to embrace the layer lines. Mostly, mainly, I enjoy it. I love photography.
