i gave up on contests too much corruption and irrelevant entries that @makerworld doesnt remove. Not even fun anymore.
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Yea, but that model does allow that. Even commercially. Like i sayed I got inspired by him but the Gear Ball is a different concept.
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Ok to close this off. Its completely fine on MakerWorld to steal entire concepts an re-upload them as long as MakerWorld is legally fine.
You will even be praised as a good designer and featured into oblivion.
Great to know.
Not only is that morally questionable but that hurts the whole community. Imagine how much money I lost because of this. That cuts from actuall designers to soly profit MakerWorld and the authors of those copys.
You are not going to see anny innovation like this. You are killing good designers and designs with this.
Bambu is actively hurting the model market. What are you without good models to print?
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A whole lot of this going on. 
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I didnât say you violated the modelâs license. You acted legally. Iâm just trying to understand it.
For me, a concept is a rough draft or idea without a fully developed solution. Thus, rotating conical gears with a shape cut out from the outside that changes are a concept.
A functioning model is the solution resulting from the concept.
The external shape, asymmetry, and size of the gears do not change the rough concept.
My understanding was that you only own the solution (the model) that you developed based on a concept and not the concept itself. (basic patents excluded)
Donât get me wrong, I can understand your anger about missing out on money. But to me, the guy did exactly the same thing as you. He took someone elseâs concept and made his own model out of it.
I know how that feels. My concepts have already been used a few times, but as long as people design the models themselves and donât use mine, thatâs ok. This brings progress, even if it doesnât feel fair on a personal level. You either have to pay for patents or stand out through quality, creativity and inventiveness.
Here is an exampleâŚ
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Like i said. My designs are asymmetrical. Nothing like that had been don before 2 months ago. Even emmets heart is symmetrical at the core.
The case is quite clear here:
My design went viral. Obviously that sparks knock offs. But it has only been 2 months. MakerWorld just likes to have a knock off of the most viral model at the time. They love it so much the give away prizes for that.
There is no innovation in his model. No change. Its just an obvious copy of my model. And that is just ridiculous.
They say the concept has been around for a while. No. Thats simply not true. Emmets designs have been around for a while. Sure. But mine are different. Not all of them but the gear Ball definitely is something new.
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This kind of thing happens to everyone, and I donât think itâs productive to try to be as possessive over concepts, especially ones that arenât wholly original to you. You might have put your spin on it, but even with that, it isnât such a stretch as to be able to try and shut others down. We may not always like the attention others get when they ride the coat tails we created, but thatâs the reality of life sometimes and it does us more harm to dwell on it, then to just move on.
This stuff happens to me. Like my retro tv, and then someone made one they submitted to the contest. Itâs maybe easier to deal with or whatever because the other personâs model didnât win anything, but still. It just doesnât matter, and it wouldnât matter if that person did win. Thereâs room for both of us to bring our vision of such a thing to light, and thereâs no need for me to try and muscle someone else just because I was the first one here with such a device. I mean shoot, I even found an article that mentioned that personâs version of the tv as it was in the contest. I didnât get that free marketing. Obviously Iâm not the first person either to make such a model.
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Hereâs a football one that introduces asymmetrical elements.
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Even that one is symmetrical. Its just an asymmetrical shape. A Ball is symmetrical. But mine doesnât turn symmetrical. Wich makes it fun and interesting.
Im not possessive of the concept. Idonât even care about his other models. They use the same concept but are uninteresting compared to the ball.
Itâs intentional theft of the core idea of the Gear Ball. Noone can deny that.
Giving away prizes for that is ridiculous. And if the people who decided that are to incompetent to see that. They shouldnât be in charge.
I can completely understand your frustration Ruven, however I have to disagree that this is unjust. Designs are constantly being âremixedâ whether they say they did or not and there are simply no patents when it comes to 3D printing. You are #1 on Thangs and holding it down, of course many people have copied your concepts and are adapting them. And Bambu would be silly to not promote the most trending design concept at the moment, regardless of the originality. To say there is no change is a bit unfair, thereâs an obvious difference in shape to my eyes and parts donât look exactly the same.
Take a look at the helix screw trend, there are now hundreds of differing designs all from the same concept. I see this as a good thing for innovation in the community.
I myself have had a lot of people copy not only my design concepts, but my video concepts. And I only get upset when they do better than me, which Iâm sure you agree with.
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Hmmm, I am needing to improve my videos a little, speaking of 
Haha, just Joshing with ya.
This is kind of the reality of popular models, especially in a space that encourages people to make and create, to be open and free. When itâs a simplish enough concept to execute too, itâs especially going to get that kind of attention. You canât stop it. You canât fight it. You can be a leader, a source of quality and trusted content that stands out amongst the crowd. You could be the apple of gear fidget things.
Personally, I try and go that route as best as I can. I canât stop people from copying me, or stealing my thunder, but I can try and produce work that stands above the rest. I work hard to bring a level of quality and style to everything I do, that hopefully makes people come back to me specifically, because they trust the quality of my work.
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I said that the mathematical models are all found on the internet and are stolen models (among the winners)!!! Yet I have seen original models that were not even taken into consideration. These contests are becoming ridiculous!! Just as Makeworldâs response is ridiculous. Would this be originality? Itâs one thing to postart a model, even if copied, but in a contest where things should be more serious and precise, especially for inventiveness, itâs becoming more and more of a circus!! I donât take part in contests, but finding models made by others to win a lot of money, I find it PROFITABLE! So I download any model, change a comma, and voilĂ itâs original. How disgusting! And the winner should be ashamed
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Yea, and you are unskilled and uncreative if you publish a helix screw. Someone who does that surely doesnât deserve a prize. On that. I have jet to see a good remix of that idea. All just reskins that try to profit from another models success.
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You can design a mark into your model that most would miss so that if they use your files to make the copy it would still be there.
You could add a .2mm hollow with your mark within part of the model so that when sliced one layer would show your mark, this way if itâs stolen they would be posting the prof in the stolen model.
I know a couple of people that already do this and itâs something I may look at if I ever put something up worth having it in.
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But do we also want to talk about video game models? Now tell me where the redesign of this 2012 model is! Itâs simply a CLONE!! And they also gave him third place. @Makerworld there are several things to review in the competitions
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These are differentâŚAnd basically its a prompt from a movie so its normal they look similarâŚ
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But letâs not talk nonsense! Do you know how to model? If it occurs yourself
https://www.printables.com/it/model/500861-1982-tron-light-cycle
âŚand I could report hundreds of them. Is this a 3 place model in a competition?
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The core of your ball also has several planes of symmetry. Is it possible that you mean concentric/eccentric instead of symmetrical/asymmetrical? Do you mean that your core is not in the middle of the ball? Is this what you consider to be your idea?
LoboCNC is a legend among the 3D printing community, here is a design he made recently because âThese passthrough fidgets seem to be all the rage.â (from description)
You may find them stupid, but I am impressed by the weird and different ways people change up a simple concept. Some models come from pure originality, some are sparked by a trend and thatâs ok.
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