Did I actually buy a H2D?

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Yes, I got charged for it yesterday during the few minutes of availability. However, it shows the printer itself on the order as a “pre order” and “Ship around April 28, 2025”.

I reached out to support on what this means and if my price could be impacted, but they are obviously quite busy with everything going on. I know only they can truly answer it, but was fishing for some experiences from other people ordering, both from this round and from last, on what they saw on their orders.

The reason I ask is, well, tariffs. If I’m “locked” in to this price, awesome. But if I’m not, then that’s a problem because I can’t afford much more than what I paid, and certainly not ~100% more by the time this is actually ready to ship. I made a bunch of other purchases for filament and accessories that I’ll need to return before the 28th if it’s going to be a insert whatever tariff exists around the 28th markup, so I’m kind of stuck on what to do.

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You bought it after the first tariffs had been applied and those were included in the launch prices, so in that respect, you paid more for it than you should have.

I’m not sure this will be true.

Sorry to be a contrarian, but, something important needs to be considered.

Shipping centres are not excluded from tariffs, they are still coming from a country where tariffs are applied and they need to be paid prior to the goods being moved on from the ports they arrived at.

Bambu Lab has already increased the costs to US customers this morning by a few hundred dollars for the H2D printers (and the entire printer range is now more expensive), this was related to the second set of tariffs that took the Chinese country’s good tariff to 54%.

Today Trump is/has increased that to 104%, that hasn’t been accounted for in the current Bambu Lab pricing.

The price between what the customer was charged vs how much the tariffs are for in the pipeline of orders is massive.

Based entirely on the purchase price yesterday vs the products yet to ship, there is a 30% increase today and a further 50% later today (assuming it is added today).

US tariffs on Chinese goods totalling 104 per cent will start being collected from 5am UK time on Wednesday [9th April 2025], the White House has said.

That is a combined 80% of the import price.

If the printers (any goods) had landed before today, only the first 34% tariff would apply, not the extra 30% + 50% due from today.

Bambu Lab have stated all current orders have yet to be shipped, let alone landed on US soil.

Now Bambu Lab, could suck it up, but, in reality, 80% is not an easily pill to swallow (assuming it isn’t a suppository).

The 80% is based on the import cost rather than the retail cost, so not 80% of the final price the customer pays.

Bambu Lab could:

  • Try to suck it up on existing orders
  • Cancel orders it can’t suck it up on, leaving customers the option to repurchase at the higher rate
  • Ask the customer to shoulder a percentage of the increase (sharing the burden)

After this, Bambu needs to decide:

  • Can the afford to sell, to the US and instead stop selling to altogether
  • It could hope to build out and rely on 3rd party dealers like they did with New Zealand (unrelated to tariffs, I believe this was expensive shipping that made it too painful)
  • Move some manufacturing to the US, in the hopes the local steel and aluminium prices which are more expensive and the increased wages offset the damage the tariffs will cost, the printers will still cost more, but, less than the full tariff, nit a quick choice, a year minimums is likely

Nothing is easy when so much is unknown.

A statement from @BambuLab is sorely missing as they urgently need to share even their initial thoughts given the fast paced ignorant application of these tariffs.

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Ah, yes I didn’t clarify my location, I’m in the US.

I guess I was thinking that whatever happened with my order to make it a “pre order” meant that either:

  1. They already had everything in the US and paid the first round(s) of tariffs on it and the 28th is just the time it will take them to do whatever they do to prep the order (not sure why I’d call it a preorder then, but whatever).

  2. They ran out of stock or something and are allowing me to keep my order but it will be fulfilled when they receive their next shipment from China and pay the ~100% tariff on it and I’ll be told I owe them more.

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It doesn’t need to be in the US, it just needs to be on the way.

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I`d assume, based on a uk experience they ship directly from china (airfreight) 3 days, tarriffs are paid by a price hike and per item ,

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Likely if your payment was taken, your price is locked and your product will ship. Since we have no real info on if the stuff is in the US already (likely it is), while Bambu Lab management may know what will happen. The support staff are likely in the dark or not authorized to answer that question at this time.

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They do, but, that money has to come from somewhere.

A correction based on the information supplied by @mugglesmuggle

except that goods loaded onto a vessel at the port of loading and in transit on the final mode of transit before 12:01 a.m.

I said landed, as a general term, I should have included that landed also includes anything deemed departed to land, as in, it is on a ship or plane and the port is the final destination (no stops in the way).

The reason for this is how ports works, as is typical of a bonded port, the port is in the home country and the bonded port portion is not considered part of that country, but, more part of the shipping (not just ships) system.

The long and the short of it is, Bambu Lab have stated on the current orders being placed a shipping date that is after the tariff date.

While I haven’t looked into the terms for this, most companies include a force majeure clause to allow for extraordinary situations just like this.

I forgot one option companies like Bambu Lab should consider, routing through a third party country to sell to a local subsidiary and then ship on from that country.

The U.K. is charged a flat 10% tariff as we are guilty of an American-led trade imbalance (so, rather than paying us the difference to bolster their argument or even not adding any tariffs as there is a negative trade imbalance, they stuck us with 10%.

10% is less than 104%. Increased shipping and handling will eat into that, but unlikely adding more than another 10%.

Read the force majeure section above. Nothing is guaranteed.

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Correction, China is now being charged a tariff rate of 125%.

Someone stop this guy.

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If it’s already here why wouldn’t they just ship it instead of calling it a pre order?

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I doubt it is, because…

Exactly.

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It’s like the bully in high school saying, “Are you disrespecting me??”

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Does Bambu do their own shipping? If a different party ships the products they may have to schedule major releases with them as that shipper has obligations to other companies as well.

But a lot depends on what “preorder” means on the website. There are a lot of really good and educated answers. But we could throw out guesses all day, but most of us (including me) don’t have enough details to truly answer.

Hope for the best, but expect the worst…

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This may sound stupid, but what if Bambu shipped to another country that does not have Tariffs, and freight forward to the US - this would seem to make the the order come from a non-tariff country?

When all this started, I had a 10 reel order of filament from Sunlu, which in the past always had the boxes labeled “made in china”, but now say “made in Viet Nam”…

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Do you mean like this?

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Yeah, that’s it! Guess I missed that from you…

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This is really getting weird. Suppose someone actually paid 124% for a Chinese product due to tariffs, then the tariff law was recinded - who gets to keep the extra money? Will Bambu refund the money? Who got the money in the first place? our govt.? China’s? Bambu?
ARGGGHHH!

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The company that does the importing to the US pays the tariff to the US just to get the item into the US. This is based not on the sale price, but the “declared value”, which is usually considered to be the cost to produce the item, with no markup for profit.

So, a $2,000 printer might be declared at $1,000. At 124% tariff, the importing company (Bambu) would have to pay the US $1,240 to get the printer imported. Bambu then either sells the printer to a reseller (like Microcenter), or sells directly to a US buyer. If Bambu only charges the US buyer $2,000, and it really cost them $1,000 to make the printer, then they would lose $240 in the deal. So, they would likely raise the end-user price. This does not increase the tariff they pay. So, any price increase goes directly to Bambu.

Then, Bambu takes the (for example) $2,500 they sold the printer for and pays back the loans they took out to build, ship, and sell the printer. So, $2,500 - $1,240 - $1,000 (materials and salaries) - shipping leaves them with less than $200 profit per printer.

OTOH, with no tariff, Bambu imports the $1,000 printer, sells it for $1,500 and pockets about $400. The customer gets the printer for $1,000 less, Bambu has more money in their pocket, and the only entity with less money is the US government.

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Got an official response from Bambu:

Dear customer,

Thank you for contacting Bambu Lab Customer Support.

We completely understand your concern. Please rest assured — you will not be charged anything beyond what you already paid for order US****. Even though this was a pre-order, the price you saw and paid at checkout is final, and we will not add any additional charges due to tariff changes or other factors.

Thanks for your support! If there is any question, please feel free to contact us.

Best regards,
Bambu Lab Customer Support

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Thanks @Custompccases - that’s the best thing I’ve seen all day. I have a laser machine that’s gone up $1000 since I bought it on 3/25, and was really starting to wonder how it would end up.

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what if you bought it “used” from an individual from canada? would tariffs apply?

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