The person you sold it to not buying a new printer from Bambu hurts. You buying a replacement from another company helping make them be more competitive also hurts.
The person buying the used printer may never have bought it new from Bambu in the first place. And again, they are likely to buy filament, spare parts, and other accessories from Bambu. That is where they make their biggest profits. .
This is no different than any other used market. If companies went under every time someone sold something they did not like, they would all be out of business. Ever walk onto a car dealership lot and look at all of the low mileage/recent model used cars? Nearly every company takes churn rate into account in their business model. I’m pretty sure the Bambu bean counters looked at this issue and decided that those who “might” bail are “acceptable losses”,.and that by keeping the system more “closed” it would decrease losses from supporting things that are outside of that closed system.
If it ultimately costs them more than they figured, they will either change or go under. I doubt either will happen. There will always be a huge market for those customers that just want to be able to “click and print” and don’t care about how it gets from point A to point B as long as it works.
This came to mind for me as well but I didn’t know what to reference. We are on the same page.
The impact is debatable.
I believe your initial reaction here was that these people selling were acting irrationally and silly? (Paraphrasing, I hope that is accurate, I don’t want to misrepresent what you’ve stated.) If so, consider that it also just makes sense to sell if it just doesn’t meet your requirements anymore because the former owner tampered with your property. It doesn’t need to be a protest sale for it to be a rational action.
It’s frustrating to see people say they don’t care because a modification of their property does not impact them. This definitely impacts others. Had this been an announcement that they were discontinuing their cloud service, and there was a big public scandal over that, I would at least back those people up and say that BL should not change the terms of the sale for those people either.
Publicly supporting those who had their product altered unilaterally is the least I could do, so when people say “who cares until it impacts me”, it feels a little like an unnecessary stab in the back. And I certainly wouldn’t say “haha too bad, you agreed to the terms” to the cloud users if this happened… it’s just not helpful. (I’m not saying you did that here, but others have.)
Not sure but using other inks never made a problem for me…. Its print a page rhats it
And 100% sure they could leave it open to use off brand inks only what they should do is check if the ink is theirs or l not if not - forget about warranty……so all the closing they did was not due to reclamations etc but plain and simple money making….
BL is the same - where to make more money with minimum input.
The issue was was that people said they were doing these things before anything was even implemented. That is what prompted my “amusement”. People do things every day that I believe are irrational for the circumstances, and those reactions make me shake my head too. Perhaps I am just more laid back and don’t let my feathers get ruffled so easily when things don’t go the way that I would like. Everyone handles a “crisis” (perceived or real) differently.
Okay… I mean, they said they’d do it. Seems reasonable to react at that point. But we’ve beat this to death and will just have to disagree I suppose. Oh well!
Aw… cute kitty!
All kiler ninjas are looking cute in the daylight… Try approaching it during night time… might have to revisit your opinion…
You can add me to that list for the K2 Plus! If I can figure out how to turn the pic above into a sign I will have to print it and put it above my A1 (unless I manage to find a sucker to buy the A1 off me lol)
try printing it as a signboard or as a lithophane. you’ve got plenty of options to choose from.
Hold your horses for a bit, Prusa’s working on it too. Even including a real, enclosed AMS-like thing. They do make it clear that this isn’t a prototype future product, it’s more like an experiment, but they’ve told me that they’re aware of the demand for a compact, enclosed MMU system. So we can forgive if this looks clunky to anyone (but I’d be fine with this if it works):
TBH it doesn’t look clunky at all, it’s got this A E S T H E T H I C S that are just NICE. matches core one to the point… If they went with this design it’d be awesome
Anyway, on-topic bit: the Bambu Studio upgrade mentions the stupid “Auth system” so I guess that bambu haven’t hired anybody competent yet
Is this for the beta2 from two weeks ago? As no mention of it on the standard release… really long list for that one!
edit: I just got the in-app release notes on another machine, and see that Bambu Labs are maintaining two lots of release notes … and the github ones are missing a lot of details :-/
Github
Improvements
Added PLA Glow for A1 mini.
Added SUNLU filaments for Bambu Lab printers, thanks to @RikshaDriver for the contribution.
Bug fixes
Fixed crash when dragging a project in Online Models on MacOS.(#5967)
vs
https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/software/bambu-studio/release/release-note-1-10-2
There’s an un-official one that’s very similar available now on Printables for $29. I keep looking at it but I’m waiting to see what Prusa settles on officially first.
Hey not bad… but I need an AMS hub too! I want supreme laziness, so I rarely (if ever) need to swap a spool out. Basically I want these things to double as dry boxes. It looks like solutions are well underway, though.
These look like they’ll take larger (and more) spools too. And maybe no more vertical space because of how the door opens.
Oh wow lol alot of these posts . Bambu would crumble if they went pay to print model and walked out using other filaments. Alot of you were not around for things like the davinci printer I see
for the paranoid x1c owners…I would recommend checking out the community firmware. I have built quite a few printers…converted my ender 3 into basically a voron core xy, and I love the Bambu printers and they are my go-to. So much so I own 5 p1p’s and an x1c with ams. I wouldn’t worry ever about them charging you to use your printer.
Perhaps not if they corner the market first, after also grooming a horde of sycophantic Bambu defenders that deeply and cultishly believe in every nonsense “safety and security” claim that Bambu cares to throw at them.
Well, I was naive enough to act on X1C recommendations but have critical thinking skills that are sufficient to figure out that I had been lied to. Fool me once…
This does nothing to fix the proprietary nature of the Bambu network plugin, developed by a company that has now proven to be untrustworthy. AFAIU it also requires registering your printer online (even using some mandatory smartphone app?) and voiding the warranty.
What they have directly said they will do is sufficient. Bambu Connect is completely unacceptable, as was the proprietary network plugin within the Bambu Studio slicer that was advertised as open source.
it’s really simple isn’t it? If this update bothers you as much as it bothers me,
- stop using bambu studio.
- Flood bambu studio with makes that prominently feature why people
should not purchase bambu products. Post those makes all over the web. - If a phone can be jailbroken can a printer programmed by incompetents and sycophants be that hard to do? There must be many of us out there with the proper programing knowledge to do this. It will get us what we want. it will send the strongest possible message to Bambu; "give us what we want, or we will abandon your closed box for the openness we demand. And it would be a satisfyingly sharp stick in the eye for hose ho would control us and our property. the software is theirs. but the hardware is ours. there is no law that says we must use the software or firmware they deem fit to provide. If we can change the programming on apples, androids, and computers, how hard could it be for someone to come up with a patch to reinstall the older wares? All you really have to do is enable MQTT. I would love to do it myself, but im a railroad engineer. Not a programmer.
There is much less people interested in hacking 3D printer’s firmware. Just compare how many people using smartphones vs how many people using BBL printers. The driver is there, but it’s hard to justify the time a person would spend to hack a firmware and modify it at will. It’s could be 100 to 10000 hours of work. If you convert it into hour rate of an electronic engineer, that would be a massive amount of money wasting on something like $1000 printer.
We are stuck with BBL when we didn’t know better. The best way forward if BBL decides to flip the table on us is to cut our loss and invest in a different printer. Unless you have the will and time to do something like this Klipper on P1S
And the github link GitHub - ChazLayyd/Bambu-Lab-Klipper-Conversion: Running Klipper on a Bambu Lab machine by replacing it's internal electronics with readily available open-source hardware.