Heads up. After an update Bambu still force enables the checkbox to join the experience program. You’ll have to manually uncheck it if you do not want it enabled.
some screenshots might help
Not sure how a screenshot of a checkbox would really help that much. Just go to your settings and uncheck the join checkbox if you don’t want to join.
If you can uncheck it are you really being forced to join?
Seems a bit alarmist.
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The fact that the checkbox was already pre-checked, instead of clearly and transparently asking the users whether they wish for their data to be (re)used for such purposes is indeed very concerning as it raises the very legitimate question as to what other hidden changes and hidden agenda BL has with its customers data, habits and manner in which they’re using the printers they’ve acquired. Personally, I find it not just disturbing but highly offensive towards my privacy (of which I’m highly protective).
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I wanna come at this from another direction.
I disagree, respectfully.
It’s not hidden, but it’s not in your face either. I guess it should be unchecked or at the very least have a pop up asking during installation. I’ve seen it go both ways and either would do.
Now, I want to be clear here, I don’t care about what data BL collects when I’m using their devices. So what I may say will be skewed towards that a bit.
BL does make it easy to find out what they want and what they’re collecting when they do…do that.
https://bambulab.com/en/policies/privacy
(there was a sentence here. I don’t remember what I was trying to say but I just couldn’t quite get it right. So, hows your day? Everything ok? Someone loves you, be a light in the darkness) /interlude.
The models I print are already in public view
The models I create are going to be or are in public view
Some of the data collected can be found with just my email address.
The rest of the data comes from Apple or Google. That’s a rabbit hole if I’ve ever seen one and BL is far from the only user of that data
I have a phone. There’s more to worry about there.
All of this is standard. I am willing to bet $1 that there are other accounts we hold that collect nearly the same info (minus I guess what we’re priinting) that we don’t think twice about. So I am finding it difficult to get my hackles raised.
Back to the data collected, let’s look at some things. You’re phone, knows where you are (EVEN with location turned off, your carrier knows where you are), knows who you are, and knows what you do when you’re sitting on the toilet.
Your computer is nearly the same, although it needs the network most times, and you can somewhat control that at home, and definitely control that at work.
Now, if you are as concerned about data, leakage, spying, AI rising up to kill you, then you’ve already been on top of these things. You’ve used LAN for printing models you don’t want to share or are proprietary. You most likely have your network locked down and stay in LAN. So you would most likely look and uncheck that box.
Lastly, because this is just too damn long, we can’t protect everyone, or hold their hands through everything. I feel ( not speaking for everyone) there’s nothing to worry about here, because of the world we live in. Where BL is located is of no concern for me. I’ve played Fallout and know how that ends. If I worry I worry about the little brat next door who thinks his name is Neo.
When what I think can be mined before I say it, then I worry.
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I disagree with the suggestion a pre-checked checkbox equals forced to join something when you can uncheck.
However, there is something insidious in asking a question of someone and then answering for them, usually in the hopes the user will not spot it or feel compelled to agree.
In the U.K. and EU, pre-ticked boxes are banned as consent is key to laws here.
Consent has to be sought and granted, not assumed or demanded.
If you wish someone to say yes, make a compelling pitch as to the benefits the user will get directly or indirectly.
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I’m pretty sure if Google and Microsoft teamed up they could create a full timeline of my activities from somewhere around the year 2000 to this very second.
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There’s a reason police ask for your phone when they’re investigating you for a crime.
Phones and Walmart video lead to a good bit of convictions. Why do they always go to Walmart?
Sorry…just floating off…
That’s pretty obvious (lol)
Its also very obvious that you’re living in the US and from individual privacy perspective you have “nothing to hide” (except for the corpses of those you shot down when trespassing on your property 
). Far from me to criticize the manner in which you understand and/or accept any kind or form of external intrusion in your life (or that of your loved ones), but as Malc already pointed out, here in the EU, we are very much privacy aware and even Google, Amazon and Microsoft (not to speak of Zucky-boy’s online “toys”) have been forced to adapt and "play " by different rules that they usually do in the US or the rest of the world. Any of the above named organizations, including Apple, Sony, and several others, have been inflicted heavy fines in the EU for breaches of individual’s privacy or misuse or abuse of their data (whether personal or not), so don’t take it the wrong way if we, from the “old continent”, do view this matter differently than most of you living outside Europe.
At the end of the day, one could argue that there isn’t any “sensitive” data BL gathers from us and our machines, and that anyone having such concerns could, as you’ve said, simply switch to LAN mode only and they’re safe.
The argument both me and Malc are making here has nothing to do with the type or amount of data BL gets from us, but rather the manner in which it considers appropriate to do so. Hidden settings, or imposing circumvoluted and non-transparent actions from users (without proper prior communication & consideration given to the free will and free choice of the targeted individual) would definitely result in very hefty financial and administrative sanctions against BL here in the EU.
That being said, everyone is free to decide for him/herself what is reasonable and acceptable data usage when it comes to each of them.
Dude, emoji or not, this is offensive to me. Offending me is damn hard to do, congratulations. You come off as condescending and a little arrogant, and quite frankly I don’t need that **** this morning.
Yes, that was my experience. Feel free to disagree, add your prospective, or outright tell me I’m wrong. Just don’t shove a holier than thou load of steaming BS down my throat and ask me to accpet it. We dumped that into the harbor long ago.
Peace. I’m done.
Never had any intention to offend you, or to be condescending or arrogant towards you or towards anyone else. If this is how I came out, you have my sincere apologies.
They can have my data, I’m that boring and erratic they’ll be looking for the block user button. Ask my Wife.
The time where I cared about what they know are long gone, I once wore the tinfoil hat with pride though and am not fooled by the “Trust us… we won’t use your data the wrong way”. Fine print or not, you’re exposed the moment you were signed up to the nappy subscription as a baby.
Accepted.
Water under the bridge.
Firstly, you must understand, that my eyesight is shot, one eye doesn’t work the remaining one is about 75% working on a good day, couple that with head tremors, photophobia and a stupid sense of humour, and this is what I thought you wrote.
They can have my data, I’m that boring and erratic and they can have my Wife.
I’m thinking, he either has an annoyance with everything or is doing a ‘bit’.
I then reread it, phew, your wife is safe.
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Not being an alarmist, but yes for those of us that have already intentionally unchecked the option to not join a customer information program, then for the program to re-check it without warning or notification is a bit unscrupulous. Was the reason for my post so people that had unchecked it could look in their setting to make sure it is still unchecked. Otherwise you wouldn’t know.
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The pineapples hanging out the front hahahaha