H2D - Is It Even Possible In This Tight Cabinet

Hello,

I’ve been considering two printers as first printer H2D and X2D. I believe I will have many use cases for bigger printing area and some technical materials, so I’m more inclined towards H2D. However, I’m not sure if I can physically fit H2D in my apartment.

At least at the beginning, I have two options. Both in cabinets, both on heavy duty sliding shelf.

First cabinet internal dimension is 580 mm width and 510 mm depth. This would be more convenient, since it’s location and ease of making ventilation. Printer would be placed on heavy duty sliding shelf, rotated 90* (when you open cabinet, you will be facing right side of the printer, front will be on your left and accessible only after sliding the shelf out). This one also has already ventilation on the top.

Other option is in a bit bigger cabinet, but with worse access and more problematic ventilation. But dimensions are better - 580 mm depth and 545 mm width, and printer would be front facing. I would need to make more complex ventilation solution for it.

To sum up: option 1 - 580mm width, 510 mm depth, rotated printer. Option 2- 580 mm depth, 545 mm width, front facing. Both sliding shelves.

I’ve seen some threads that people are placing those printers in IKEA cabinets, but is that doable with closed door (and eventual ventilation? Would I be able to operate if after sliding out ? In both cases vertically there is enough space to put AMS on the top, eventual secondary spool would be probably fed from the top as well. I will probably have to print some small poop chute, angled ventilation adapter and get angled power cable, so that could save some space.

Is that possible to do this? Or should I completely drop this idea and go with X2D, which could be too small for some of my prints?

I’ve attached drawings of both options.

Perhaps you should start by asking yourself a basic question: what amount of building space do you need? That’s the most important thing. It doesn’t do you any good to buy the wrong size.


I’ll give you a few basics to work with: First of all, how big are the parts you actually want to print? Do they really have to be printed in one piece, or can they also be chemically bonded or glued together?

There are also screws and special threads for 3D prints that you can insert with a soldering iron to connect different parts.


You can probably tell I’m not talking about the location, because first you need to know what you need - that’s essential. If you say it’s “too small for your prints” and it’s just for decoration, then you can cut it up and glue it together - no problem. If, on the other hand, they’re functional parts that have to be printed in one piece, then you have a problem.


Please also keep in mind: Both are outstanding printers! But the H Series are not a beginner printer. They’re outstanding machines, but you should definitely be prepared for a steep learning curve. I don’t mean that it’s extremely complex, but it’s not as simple as just pressing “Print” and done.

But don’t get me wrong: H devices are still great printer for beginners - as long as they’re willing to check the wiki and the manual from time to time.

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Thanks for the response! I did some research and I’m aware of some methods of connecting prints after splitting one bigger one into smaller ones, but still there are some functional parts (like baskets, organizers, gridfinity shelfs, some techincal parts) that I believe would benefit from bigger printing area.

So from there is a need for bigger printing area, but I’m not sure if I’m able to fit bigger printer. If not, then I guess I’ll have to drop some ideas or maybe try to deal with it in other way.

The first setup looks very impractical to me. So you would pull the drawer out while printing? You would have to lock the drawer in that position, the printers cause considerable motion if the base is not fixed. How does the room around the printer look like, respectively could you also make a drawing how the cabinet would be standing in the room? Background:
I think I would hate it if I can’t freely access the printer with a bit of room left and right of the front.
Also keep in mind, that you occasionally want access the printer from the sides. E.g. the entrance for the tubes is at the rear left. In your setup, it will be almost impossible to reach there with the door in the way. And lifting an H2D around really is no joy.

I have an X2D in an IKEA PAX cabinet that is 1m wide and 60cm deep. For the X2D that is just deep enough in my opinion. It needs some space at the back for ventilation and I really need a few cm in front for putting down tools, filament rolls, and such stuff. I’m also drying filament in an AMS HT in the same compartment. For ventilation, I made a cutout in the rear, put on a 120mm silent fan with a temperature controller. Behind the cabinet there are maybe 3cm gap to the wall. So far that was sufficient for me even when drying PC at 85°C or printing it.

Regarding build plate size: For general use, I wouldn’t overestimate what you need. For me, 95% of the prints would easily fit on an A1mini. Of course it is convenient to still have a bigger plate, e.g. for printing multiple copies. I have very occasional prints where I really need the build volume. Often that is for narrow long parts, that I put diagonally on the plate. I think I never really missed an even bigger plate. For really big parts, I usually prefer combining 3d printing with other materials like wooden boards or acrylic plates. So I the printer only does the complex parts like hinges connectors etc.

A bigger printer also has some other downsides. E.g. build plates are considerably more expensive. I always cringe when a print sticks too hard to the plate and I have to scratch the surface to get it separated. I really don’t want to damage a H2 plate in an instant.

Also keep in mind that big print jobs will take several days.

I think, to justify the volume of an H2, I would ask if I have clear plans for projects that are impossible with a smaller printer. Maybe Cosplay equipment could be such a scenario where you want to print helmets in one piece.

And with mire exotic materials, it is very similar as with build volume: 97% of my prints are PLA or PETG, and print almost only functional parts. Occasionally I use PC when I need > 100°C temperature resistance and exceptional impact strength. Add a TPU print here and there. A PAHT-CF sits in my collection covering dust. I haven’t even opened it yet. PLA and PETG are very capable materials that easily cover most needs and cost a fraction of the more exotic stuff.
And I think the only material the doesn’t make much sense in the X2D are PPS and PPA. You usually have very specific requirements and know exactly what you want to do, when you need them.

Maybe you can lay out what exactly you plan to print?

I don’t want to deny, that the H2x might be the better choice for you. If that’s the case, I would really make possible a more adequate place for it. If not, I think the X2D is an extremely capable printer that can carry you very far. And at the price, you can’t make a big mistake. If you find out that an H2x would have been better, you don’t loose very much when selling the X2D, keep the AMS and get a H2x.

Here are some pictures of my setup. The printer also sits on 90kg kitchen rails with the board strengthened with aluminium extrusion at the bottom. I usually print with doors closed, that has a huge impact on noise. I only pull it out for changing filament in the lower AMS2 and for maintenance.



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If the depth of the unit is a concern I would say that the X2D is not going to give you much relief because of the components on the backside of the X2D printer and the need to keep the PTFE tubes from bending at small radii. I have 63cm from the back wall to the front edge X2D display.

My somewhat informed opinion is the H2D performance will be better than the X2D. This is partly due to the H2D being both a better machine and more mature. The X2D is still wet behind the ears in my opinion and the auxiliary nozzle will have some speed and performance loss due to the Bowden extruder.

I find the print quality of the X2D about on par with the X1C I had. That might improve with firmware updates and software slicer updates, but it still is a $650 printer.

On the plus side the smaller cavity and build plate will heat up faster than the H2D.

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Do you have a use for nylon or polycarbonate?

If your “functional prints” are shelf brackets, plant pots, nerf guns, cosplay, drawer dividers etc, you will find PLA, PETG and TPU sufficient. For things left outdoors in all weather you will need ASA or ABS.

If you just need like 1 nylon part per month, just outsource it to PCBWAY or Xometry or something; you send them an STL and they ship you a nice SLS printed nylon part. (Although I wouldn’t use Xometry personally as we are still boycotting US goods and companies)

Please allow for air cooling gaps when you size your printer cabinet, or throw a fan in there.

Oh, and another thing, you should consider: the printer produces some poop at the back, so you want to direct that somewhere. Most common are slides to a bucket on the side of the printer. You can also cut a hole in the drawer and put a bucket under it. But you don’t want it to accumulate freely behind the printer.

I think you will struggle to fit and use the H2D on that space especially if you need to allow room for the kettle lead into the rear and allow suitable room for ventilation of the fans as well as poop shoot, thats before any fitting of AMS or side spools. I’ve managed to fit mine on a 600mm deep shelf but only just and thats with using the slimmest addons at the rear as well as minimising tube length without causing sharp bends, here are some pics of my H2C lazer install if that helps. You may save some space on the right without the emergency power button, but personally with the space avalable in your drawings the X2D would be the sensible option in my opinion.

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Here is a Youtube video of someone showing fitting an H2D is a rack shelf. https://youtu.be/VeDG8_4Ul20

I am not sure about this, no matter how heavy duty the sliding shelf is :slight_smile:

I do not have any issues with sliding shelf if it is implemented properly.

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Something else you need to think about , do you have the proper AC supply to keep it from popping circuit breakers?

I agree, anyone who has worked in data centers in the early 2000s probably remembers the massively heavy servers and storage arrays that were rack mounted. They were on heavy duty rails, in heavy duty racks and still leaving them fully extended to work on them was something you didnt want to leave out for very long in that position. And add the movement of the printers internals to it you have a lot of force added to the dead weight. Those big servers were about the same weight as an H2D.

Consider a cart you can pull out not just a shelf. They look like a washer unbalanced during spin cycle and can really sling themselves around.