Hi, I’m interested in a H2D or H2C. Its my first printer. I would like to use TPU and will print some parts for tools, hooks etc. but also some parts for decoration for Christmas etc for the kids. I can’t decide. Could you please help me?
Whatever printer it will be at the end, a AMS 2 pro and AMS HT are fix.
If money is no issue get an h2c. As a first printer i reccomend look at a p1s before shelling out the big bucks.
What @user_1843457038 said. Ive seen a few friends now buy printers and use them 1 or 2 times. Ive gifted 3 printers to people that never even turned them on. Now, I usually suggest a p series as a testing ground. If you already know youll enjoy it, get an h2c.
@user_1843457038 sorry to repeat half of what you already said.
but if I figure out after a few month I would like to have some much bigger its hard to sell them.
The p1s is too old. the minimum would be a p2s or the h2s with the bigger build volume
Here’s the article to replace a consumable hotend fan on an h2d.
If you think you can do repairs like this go for an h2c and sell it within 12 months. 3d printers age out quickly and drop in value once a new model comes out. H2d is dropping right now due to losing flagship status. P1s price is fairly settled and print farms love them so resale is decent. An h2s may make sense but don’t buy it thinking about resale price.
Edit: couldn’t find the wiki so i linked a forum thread.
Sorry, I don’t get the point with the repair and the selling of the H2C in 12 month.
If I purchase a H2C it is there to stay. The comment was about the P1S. If everything’s works fine but is maybe in terms of materials, user experience not nice then I have the issue of a resale I don’t see the issue with a H2D or H2C but maybe I haven’t got the point.
The P1S is not user friendly in terms of display ect. I don’t see any point for the p1s compared to the p2s as a start.
In general due to a closed cellar with now windows I have to use something with a possibility to connect on a air filtration system like Air filtration with Upptavind
Additional the build volume would be the min. the H2S.
Your main deciding factor -
The H2C only has 1 of the 2 print heads that print TPU. I believe the H2D can use both. So it’s a trade off between TPU waste and PLA/PETG/ABS ect waste with using the vortek system.
Sorry, I’ll try to be more concise.
If you buy a 3d printer with any expectation of resale value after 12 months of use, you will have a bad time. think about how a cell phone devalues.
The H2D and H2C are very unfriendly repairability wise. If you aren’t comfortable taking apart a tool head with 30+ screws of various sizes and 2 boards to replace a 5 dollar fan bear it in mind. These are not beginner friendly printers when they have issues.
The P2S is a new printer with a nicer screen, go for it. I recommended the P1s because it has years of community documentation and a wealth of knowledge at a good price.
Your use case can be more clear. What TPU will be used for?
What kind of tool parts and hooks are you goign to make? This can determine what filaments to use.
Do any of these parts or hooks need a big build plate like the H series have?
X’Mas decors can be done in PLA.
There will be things like bottle holders, fenders, stands, etc. for bicycles, adapters for power tools, etc. Nothing super fancy. No carparts or anything like that.
I think it will mostly be the materials.
• ASA
• PETG HF
• TPU 90a maybe 80
• PETG CF
• PLA variations
At the moment I think that 2-3 parts need the bigger building volume.
So the most uses are for functional/practical items. These don’t need to be multicolor. Some X’Mas decors can be multicolor, but one can probably live with the occasional waste. H2C looks like an overkill. So is H2D. But if money is not an issue, then go for the best printer available is fine too.
For someone who mainly prints technical stuff — like you, and honestly like me as well — the big advantage of the Vortek system basically comes down to the convenience of automated nozzle swapping. And even that matters less now, because the new Bambu Lab printers already make nozzle changes super easy. No more dealing with a bunch of tiny, fragile connectors like on my old XC1.
For people who love printing bright, multicolored parts, the H2C is a total game-changer. But if you want to combine different technical filaments in a single part — like TPU, PA6-GF, and PLA Silk — Vortek won’t help at all. Those materials all need completely different plate and chamber temperatures, so you simply can’t print them “in one go.”
And honestly, a good designer thinks about repairability. If a TPU gasket on a part wears out, I don’t want to throw away the entire part — I just want to replace the gasket.
So with your use case, I’d definitely lean toward the H2S or the H2D instead of the H2C.
I worried about that when I was trying to decide what to buy - if I spend a lot and use it for 3 weeks that’s a lot of money wasted. But if I buy an A1 and get really into it won’t that be wasted when I buy the up-market model in a few weeks or months?
But as I watched YouTube videos I saw that people with high end Bambu models still had their A1’s as well.
I bought my A1, and a while later I bought my H2S and both are running all the time. I hadn’t really anticipated how long some print jobs would take so parallel printing saves a huge amount of time
Obviously you may be limited on space to have 2 (or more) printers
A year ago, I bought my first printers, A1 and A1 mini. Now I understand what I need, and I have ordered H2C; moreover, I have been waiting for it since the announcement. I will not sell my A1 series printers.
I think each has their own expectations, scenarios of using, so I don’t say that my choice is the best for everyone.
If I needed to make a choice today for a first 3d printer, I would buy P2S + A1 mini, or A1 + A1 mini (as I did 1 year ago), or, if I had more money, H2S, because it is upgradable to H2C. I wouldn’t buy H2C as a first choice.
I printed using TPU (95A, 90A), PLA, PETG, PETG-CF.
To sum it up, I’m not recommending a specific printer; I’m just telling you what I would do. But everyone’s needs and budget are different, and it’s impossible to give one-size-fits-all advice.
If you can afford an H2C and you believe this is something you will be using every week at the very least then by all means get the H2C. I have an H2D currently deciding if I want to sell it for the H2C. Since it will be your only printer you will be able to easily swap nozzles to different sizes.
Getting an H series as a first printer is like getting a Ferrari as a first car but I have seen numerous people do it and none regrets their choice.
Print TPU, H2D or H2C are really good start with big print volume. Vortek on H2C for me and may for your need as well is something just nice to have.
TPU mix with another material can be done well on H2D as well as H2C.
TPU mix with another two materials can not be done easily on H2D and H2C couldn’t make any change to it.
Apart from saving some purging material on H2C, I think the main benefit of vortek is sometimes it can help with quick nozzle size change and give dedicated nozzle to a certain type of material. But the pain is that you still need to change the left nozzle yourself.
BL has offered me to send my 2 weeks old H2D back free of charge apart from shipping fee and I can buy a H2C if I want. Will I do it? I’ll probably use the money to buy some accessaries for the H2D.
Sure you can: TPU right nozzle, two other materials on the left nozzle with AMS.
Yeah, that’s why I said can not be done easily. and that what I did.
Unfortunately, petg and pla on left nozzle had a bit contamination as I did’t set the flash volume to max. And the print ended up with bad surface. (after filament change, petg can’t stick to petg as normal for a while, caused almost the whole layer flied away)
It’s doable, Just not the best and H2C will not improve this situation.
TPU printing from left nozzle is coming with a future firmware update to the H2C so it will be much easier and reliable with the Vortek to do TPU + PLA + PETG.
BLUF - If you’re new to 3D printing get a P1S, it’ll serve you well & won’t be a financial pain if you don’t get into the hobby!
I’ve had a P1S for approx a year & absolutely love it, BUT my requirements, & frankly my skill level has reached a stage where I need something bigger & better, hence my decision to buy a H2C. It’s clearly a much bigger financial investment but I know I’ll use it!