H2D smaller Version for private use in 2025?

I thought the carbon rod thing was a heat deflection issue.

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That’s what Dr. Tao said in the CNCKitchen interview, but I find that puzzling since carbon fiber has a much lower thermal expansion coefficient than steel or aluminum.

I think it’s more a young’s modulus thing than thermal expansion.

gives an example of the modulus of elasticity of metals and of plastics vs temperature. Carbon metal-filled rods are slightly different beast than nylon 6or polycarbonate, but the polymer will be the weakest point in that assemblage.

While I don’t think our carbon rods are destined to collapse at our printing forces + temps, I am not surprised if they were starting to notice some unwarranted miniscule but measurable deflection at chamber heated temperatures and the additional span of the H2D plus head weight.

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I would bet good money on there being at least one normal sized single head machine coming out in 6 months or less. I’m thinking there could easily be 2 more machines to replace the X1 and P1 series, but I can see a world were they meet in the middle and just have one middle of the road printer. I always thought it was odd, that they had 2 series of printers with very similar abilities. This might be their opportunity to change that.

I think the real problem is the resin determines the heat resistance. And at elevated temps, lower cost resins will flex more than they would like. It takes a pretty high dollar resin to hold up to high temps, and I doubt their supplier is using that.

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So this is the reason the x1c never got the heated chamber they promised

Good point; I forgot that the carbon fibers held in place within a plastic matrix.

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wow I hope you are right!!! I would love it , but hopefully with 2 nozzles at least!

I think they might combine the P1s and X1 into one product. When it first came out we had the X1, X1 Carbon, then P1p and P1s. The marketplace is very different now and full of printers with nice touch screens, I dont think the P1s interface would be accepted today. I think they will do an X2 with steel rail (instead of carbon) and plastic side panels (like H2D) to reduce the costs and push downmarket. I doubt it will have dual nozzles as that requires larger printer size.

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you could be right… but I hope they will somehow still manage to make multicolor easier and less trash making :wink:

They did, its called H2D! I think eventually they will have a tool changer similar to the Bondtech INDX system, but im sure thats a few years out.

yes but I mean to have a dual nozzle or similar but for a smaller printer

Printer would have to grow considerably to accommodate the dual print heads, would not be an X1/X2 anymore.

there are also “small” printers with 2 print heads… I rather have a smaller print size coming from a A1 mini… X1 dual nozzles would be still great!!!