H2D struggling in colder workshop (warping, bed adhession)?

My H2D has been running flawlessly since i got it early this year, but recently I’m getting more issues of warping and the print coming off the build plate. I did wash the buildplate but that didnt really work. Glue is a solution, but I never needed it before.

I’m guessing the the exhaust fan is the main problem. The printer is in a workshop where the temp is now around 15C, as it is winter here. This means it is sucking in cold air, while the chamber isn’t too warm for PLA anyhow. I have been manually closing the exhaust and lowering the AUX fan, but this is becoming a bit annoying.

Are others now also frequently experiencing this? And what is your solution?
Would be great if there would be some update on the software, as it is just a matter of temperature control settings.

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it’s not the exhaust fan, it’s the stupid decision of forcing chamber cooling BY DEFAULT for PLA and PETG. They didn’t take colder areas into consideration.

@SupportAssistant Please please please just give us an option when sending printing tasks, to turn on or off chamber cooling as we wish right before sending a print.

No, modifying the filament profile to turn it off, or modifying the printer profile, isn’t a good way neither a convenient way. Because it’s a pain to map every filament profile manually every time when you’re using multi color or other things. Just give us an option to turn it off by one click please?


Just give us an option here?? It’s not hard to do right?

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Go to the Bambu studio settings and enable “develop mode”.

Then go to your printer profile and enable “enhanced air filtration” and save it. This will be the new printer profile you use and you won’t have to mess with this setting again.

After that, go to your filament profile and navigate to the cooling tab. At the bottom you’ll now see an exhaust fan speed setting. Change it appropriately and save the filament profile. You can also change your aux fan speed here.

Default exhaust fan speed is 30%. Try bringing it down to 20% and see what your chamber temp sits at. PLA can handle up to about 38°c, but it’s probably safer to keep it around 35°c. If you find it’s still too much cooling, try 10%.

I’d probably just totally turn the aux fan off. Set it to 0%. I’ve never actually found that I needed the aux fan, so I’ve converted them into air scrubbers.

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I have an always activ heat soaking routine in the printers start gcode

;===== machine: H2D =========================
;===== date: 20250604 =====================

;M1002 set_flag extrude_cali_flag=1
;M1002 set_flag g29_before_print_flag=1
;M1002 set_flag auto_cali_toolhead_offset_flag=1
;M1002 set_flag build_plate_detect_flag=1

M993 A0 B0 C0 ; nozzle cam detection not allowed.

M400
;M73 P99

;=====printer start sound ===================
M17
M400 S1
M1006 S1
M1006 A53 B9 L99 C53 D9 M99 E53 F9 N99 
M1006 A56 B9 L99 C56 D9 M99 E56 F9 N99 
M1006 A61 B9 L99 C61 D9 M99 E61 F9 N99 
M1006 A53 B9 L99 C53 D9 M99 E53 F9 N99 
M1006 A56 B9 L99 C56 D9 M99 E56 F9 N99 
M1006 A61 B18 L99 C61 D18 M99 E61 F18 N99 
M1006 W
;=====printer start sound ===================

;===== reset machine status =================
M204 S10000
M630 S0 P0

G90
M17 D ; reset motor current to default
M960 S5 P1 ; turn on logo lamp
G90
M220 S100 ;Reset Feedrate
M221 S100 ;Reset Flowrate
M73.2   R1.0 ;Reset left time magnitude
G29.1 Z{+0.0} ; clear z-trim value first
M983.1 M1 
M901 D4
M481 S0 ; turn off cutter pos comp
;===== reset machine status =================

M620 M ;enable remap

;===== avoid end stop =================
G91
G380 S2 Z22 F1200
G380 S2 Z-12 F1200
G90
;===== avoid end stop =================

;==== set airduct mode ==== 

{if (overall_chamber_temperature >= 40)}

    M145 P1 ; set airduct mode to heating mode for heating
    M106 P2 S0 ; turn off auxiliary fan
    M106 P3 S0 ; turn off chamber fan

{else}
    M145 P0 ; set airduct mode to cooling mode for cooling
    M106 P2 S178 ; turn on auxiliary fan for cooling
    M106 P3 S127 ; turn on chamber fan for cooling
    M140 S0 ; stop heatbed from heating

    M1002 gcode_claim_action : 29
    M191 S0 ; wait for chamber temp
    M106 P2 S0 ; turn off auxiliary fan
    {if (min_vitrification_temperature <= 50)}
        {if (nozzle_diameter == 0.2)}
            M142 P1 R30 S35 T40 U0.3 V0.5 W0.8 O40 ; set PLA/TPU ND0.2 chamber autocooling
        {else}
            M142 P1 R30 S40 T45 U0.3 V0.5 W0.8 O45; set PLA/TPU ND0.4 chamber autocooling
        {endif}
    {else}
        {if (!is_all_bbl_filament)}
            M142 P1 R35 S40 T45 U0.3 V0.5 W0.8 O45 L1 ; set third-party PETG chamber autocooling
        {else}
            {if (nozzle_diameter == 0.2)}
                M142 P1 R35 S45 T50 U0.3 V0.5 W0.8 O50 L1 ; set PETG ND0.2 chamber autocooling
            {else}
                M142 P1 R35 S50 T55 U0.3 V0.5 W0.8 O55 L1 ; set PETG ND0.4 chamber autocooling
            {endif}
        {endif}
    {endif}
{endif}
;==== set airduct mode ==== 

;===== start to heat heatbed & hotend==========

    M1002 set_filament_type:{filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder]}

    M104 S140 A
    M140 S[bed_temperature_initial_layer_single]

    ;===== set chamber temperature ==========
    {if (overall_chamber_temperature >= 40)}
        M145 P1 ; set airduct mode to heating mode
        M141 S[overall_chamber_temperature] ; Let Chamber begin to heat
    {endif}
    ;===== set chamber temperature ==========

;===== start to heat heatbead & hotend==========

;====== cog noise reduction=================
M982.2 S1 ; turn on cog noise reduction

;===== first homing start =====
M1002 gcode_claim_action : 13

G28 X T300

G150.1 F18000 ; wipe mouth to avoid filament stick to heatbed
G150.3 F18000
M400 P200
M972 S24 P0 T2000
{if curr_bed_type=="Textured PEI Plate"}
M972 S26 P0 C0
{elsif curr_bed_type=="High Temp Plate"}
M972 S36 P0 C0 X1
{endif}
M972 S35 P0 C0

G90
G1 X175 Y160 F30000

G28 Z P0 T250

;===== first homing end =====

M400
;M73 P99

;===== detection start =====

    T1001
    G383.4 ; left-extruder load status detection
    
    M104 S{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder]-80} A ; rise temp in advance

M1002 judge_flag build_plate_detect_flag
M622 S1
    M972 S19 P0 C0    ; heatbed presence detection
M623

    M972 S14 P0 ; nozzle type detection

;===== detection end =====

M400
;M73 P99

;===== prepare print temperature and material ==========
M400
M211 X0 Y0 Z0 ;turn off soft endstop
M975 S1 ; turn on input shaping

G29.2 S0 ; avoid invalid abl data

{if ((filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "PLA") || (filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "PLA-CF") || (filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "PETG")) && (nozzle_diameter[initial_no_support_extruder] == 0.2)}
M620.10 A0 F74.8347 H{nozzle_diameter[initial_no_support_extruder]} T{nozzle_temperature_range_high[initial_no_support_extruder]} P{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder]} S1
M620.10 A1 F74.8347 H{nozzle_diameter[initial_no_support_extruder]} T{nozzle_temperature_range_high[initial_no_support_extruder]} P{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder]} S1
{else}
M620.10 A0 F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2.4053*60} H{nozzle_diameter[initial_no_support_extruder]} T{nozzle_temperature_range_high[initial_no_support_extruder]} P{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder]} S1
M620.10 A1 F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2.4053*60} H{nozzle_diameter[initial_no_support_extruder]} T{nozzle_temperature_range_high[initial_no_support_extruder]} P{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder]} S1
{endif}

M620.11 P0 I[initial_no_support_extruder] E0

{if long_retraction_when_ec }
M620.11 K1 I[initial_no_support_extruder] R{retraction_distance_when_ec} F{max((filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2.4053*60), 200)}
{else}
M620.11 K0 I[initial_no_support_extruder] R0
{endif}

M628 S1
{if filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "TPU"}
    M620.11 S0 L0 I[initial_no_support_extruder] E-{retraction_distances_when_cut[initial_no_support_extruder]} F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2.4053*60}
{else}
{if (filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "PA") ||  (filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "PA-GF")}
    M620.11 S1 L0 I[initial_no_support_extruder] R4 D2 E-{retraction_distances_when_cut[initial_no_support_extruder]} F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2.4053*60}
{else}
    M620.11 S1 L0 I[initial_no_support_extruder] R10 D8 E-{retraction_distances_when_cut[initial_no_support_extruder]} F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2.4053*60}
{endif}
{endif}
M629

M620 S[initial_no_support_extruder]A   ; switch material if AMS exist
M1002 gcode_claim_action : 4
M1002 set_filament_type:UNKNOWN
M400
T[initial_no_support_extruder]
M400
M628 S0
M629
M400
M1002 set_filament_type:{filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder]}
M621 S[initial_no_support_extruder]A

M104 S{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder]}
M400
M106 P1 S0

G29.2 S1
;===== prepare print temperature and material ==========

M400
;M73 P99

;===== auto extrude cali start =========================
M975 S1
M1002 judge_flag extrude_cali_flag

M622 J0
    M983.3 F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2.4} A0.4 ; cali dynamic extrusion compensation
M623

M622 J1
    M1002 set_filament_type:{filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder]}
    M1002 gcode_claim_action : 8

    M109 S{nozzle_temperature[initial_no_support_extruder]}

    G90
    M83
    M983.3 F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2.4} A0.4 ; cali dynamic extrusion compensation

    M400
    M106 P1 S255
    M400 S5
    M106 P1 S0
    G150.3
M623

M622 J2
    M1002 set_filament_type:{filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder]}
    M1002 gcode_claim_action : 8

    M109 S{nozzle_temperature[initial_no_support_extruder]}

    G90
    M83
    M983.3 F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2.4} A0.4 ; cali dynamic extrusion compensation

    M400
    M106 P1 S255
    M400 S5
    M106 P1 S0
    G150.3
M623

;===== auto extrude cali end =========================

{if filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "TPU"}
    G150.2
    G150.1
    G150.2
    G150.1
    G150.2
    G150.1
{else}
    M106 P1 S0
    M400 S2
    M83
    G1 E45 F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2.4053*60}
    G1 E-3 F1800
    M400 P500
    G150.2
    G150.1
{endif}

G91
G1 Y-16 F12000 ; move away from the trash bin
G90

M400
;M73 P99

;===== wipe right nozzle start =====

M1002 gcode_claim_action : 14
    G150 T{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder]}
    {if (overall_chamber_temperature >= 40)}
        G150 T{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder] - 80}
    {endif}
M106 S255 ; turn on fan to cool the nozzle

;===== wipe left nozzle end =====

M400
;M73 P99

{if (overall_chamber_temperature >= 40)}
    M1002 gcode_claim_action : 49
    M191 S[overall_chamber_temperature] ; wait for chamber temp
{endif}

M400
;M73 P99

;===== bed leveling ==================================

M1002 judge_flag g29_before_print_flag

M190 S[bed_temperature_initial_layer_single]; ensure bed temp
M109 S140 A
M106 S0 ; turn off fan , too noisy

G91
G1 Z5 F1200
G90
G1 X275 Y300 F30000

M622 J1
    M1002 gcode_claim_action : 1
    G29.20 A3
    G29 A1 O X{first_layer_print_min[0]} Y{first_layer_print_min[1]} I{first_layer_print_size[0]} J{first_layer_print_size[1]}
    M400
    M500 ; save cali data
M623
    
M622 J2
    M1002 gcode_claim_action : 1
    {if has_tpu_in_first_layer}
        G29.20 A3
        G29 A1 O X{first_layer_print_min[0]} Y{first_layer_print_min[1]} I{first_layer_print_size[0]} J{first_layer_print_size[1]}
    {else}
        G29.20 A4
        G29 A2 O X{first_layer_print_min[0]} Y{first_layer_print_min[1]} I{first_layer_print_size[0]} J{first_layer_print_size[1]}
    {endif}
    M400
    M500 ; save cali data
M623

M622 J0
    G28
M623

;===== bed leveling end ================================

G39.1 ; cali nozzle wrapped detection pos
M500

;===== z ofst cali start =====

    M190 S[bed_temperature_initial_layer_single]; ensure bed temp

    G383 O0 M2 T140
    M500

;===== z ofst cali end =====

M400
;M73 P99

M141 S[overall_chamber_temperature]

**; ===== Start av 15 minuters temperaturstabilisering =====**
**M117 Temperaturstabilisering i 15 minuter...  ; Visa meddelande på skärmen**
**M400 S900                                                       ; Vänta 15 minuter (900 sekunder)**
**M117 Temperaturstabilisering klar                  ; Uppdatera skärmens meddelande**
**; ===== Slut på 15 minuters temperaturstabilisering =====**

M104 S{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder]} A

;===== mech mode sweep start =====
    M1002 gcode_claim_action : 3

    G90
    G1 Z5 F1200
    G1 X187 Y160 F20000
    T1000
    M400 P200

    M970.3 Q1 A5 K0 O1
    M974 Q1 S2 P0

    M970.3 Q0 A5 K0 O1
    M974 Q0 S2 P0

    M970.2 Q2 K0 W38 Z0.01
    M974 Q2 S2 P0
    M500

    M975 S1
;===== mech mode sweep end =====

M400
;M73 P99

G150.3 ; move to garbage can to wait for temp
M1026

;===== xy ofst cali start =====

M1002 judge_flag auto_cali_toolhead_offset_flag

M622 J0
    M1012.5 N1 R1
M623

M622 J1
    M1002 gcode_claim_action : 39
    M141 S0
    M620.17 T0 S{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[(first_non_support_filaments[0] != -1 ? first_non_support_filaments[0] : first_filaments[0])]} L{(first_non_support_filaments[0] != -1 ? first_non_support_filaments[0] : first_filaments[0])}
    M620.17 T1 S{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[(first_non_support_filaments[1] != -1 ? first_non_support_filaments[1] : first_filaments[1])]} L{(first_non_support_filaments[1] != -1 ? first_non_support_filaments[1] : first_filaments[1])}
    G383 O1 T{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder]} L{initial_no_support_extruder}
    M500
    M141 S[overall_chamber_temperature]
M623

M622 J2
    M1002 gcode_claim_action : 39
    M141 S0
    M620.17 T0 S{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[(first_non_support_filaments[0] != -1 ? first_non_support_filaments[0] : first_filaments[0])]} L{(first_non_support_filaments[0] != -1 ? first_non_support_filaments[0] : first_filaments[0])}
    M620.17 T1 S{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[(first_non_support_filaments[1] != -1 ? first_non_support_filaments[1] : first_filaments[1])]} L{(first_non_support_filaments[1] != -1 ? first_non_support_filaments[1] : first_filaments[1])}
    G383.3 T{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder]} L{initial_no_support_extruder}
    M500
    M141 S[overall_chamber_temperature]
M623
;===== xy ofst cali end =====

M400
;M73 P99

M1002 gcode_claim_action : 0
M400

;============switch again==================

M211 X0 Y0 Z0 ;turn off soft endstop
G91
G1 Z6 F1200
G90
M1002 set_filament_type:{filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder]}
M620 S[initial_no_support_extruder]A
M400
T[initial_no_support_extruder]
M400
M628 S0
M629
M400
M621 S[initial_no_support_extruder]A

;============switch again==================

M400
;M73 P99

;===== wait temperature reaching the reference value =======

M104 S{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder]} ; rise to print tmpr

M140 S[bed_temperature_initial_layer_single] 
M190 S[bed_temperature_initial_layer_single] 

    ;========turn off light and fans =============
    M960 S1 P0 ; turn off laser
    M960 S2 P0 ; turn off laser
    M106 S0 ; turn off fan
    M106 P2 S0 ; turn off big fan

    ;============set motor current==================
    M400 S1

;===== wait temperature reaching the reference value =======

M400
;M73 P99

;===== for Textured PEI Plate , lower the nozzle as the nozzle was touching topmost of the texture when homing ==
    {if curr_bed_type=="Textured PEI Plate"}
        G29.1 Z{-0.02} ; for Textured PEI Plate
    {endif}
    
G150.1

M975 S1 ; turn on mech mode supression
M983.4 S1 ; turn on deformation compensation 
G29.2 S1 ; turn on pos comp
G29.7 S1

G90
G1 Z5 F1200
G1 Y295 F30000
G1 Y265 F18000

;===== nozzle load line ===============================
G29.2 S1 ; ensure z comp turn on
G90
M83
M109 S{nozzle_temperature_initial_layer[initial_no_support_extruder]}
{if filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "TPU"}
    ;G130 O0 F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2/2.4053} L80 E5 D12 A{first_layer_print_min[0]} B{first_layer_print_min[1]} I{first_layer_print_size[0]} J{first_layer_print_size[1]}
    G130 O0 X250 Y-0.5 Z0.8 F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2/2.4053} L40 E20 D5
{else}
    ;G130 O0 F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2/2.4053} L80 E5 D12 A{first_layer_print_min[0]} B{first_layer_print_min[1]} I{first_layer_print_size[0]} J{first_layer_print_size[1]}
    G130 O0 X250 Y-0.5 Z0.8 F{filament_max_volumetric_speed[initial_no_support_extruder]/2/2.4053} L40 E20 D5
{endif}
G90
M83
G1 Z0.2

;===== noozle load line end ===========================

M400
;M73 P99

M993 A1 B1 C1 ; nozzle cam detection allowed.

{if (filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "TPU")}
M1015.3 S1;enable tpu clog detect
{else}
M1015.3 S0;disable tpu clog detect
{endif}

{if (filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "PLA") ||  (filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "PETG")
 ||  (filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "PLA-CF")  ||  (filament_type[initial_no_support_extruder] == "PETG-CF")}
M1015.4 S1 K1 H[nozzle_diameter] ;enable E air printing detect
{else}
M1015.4 S0 K0 H[nozzle_diameter] ;disable E air printing detect
{endif}

M620.6 I[initial_no_support_extruder] W1 ;enable ams air printing detect

M211 Z1
G29.99

Comment is in Swedish so search for “Start av 15 minuters temperaturstabilisering”

For PLA/PETG turning of the AUX fan and chambers fans should help. If you are still having a problems after that you can enable chamber heating at 40c inside the filament profiles.

Thanks to the comment of @Qjo I can now change the exhaust fan from the filament profiles. However, I’m now printing a large, multifilament print now (relic rush board game) and it is really annoying to keep on adjusting these profiles and checking if the fan is now still on. I rather have a simpler solution, which could come from bambulab. Now the chamber can either be set to warming or cooling, with cooling of PLA in a colder room is now the issue. It could be changed to include a third option like neither cooling nor heating, unless a min/max setpoint is reached.

So, I had a quick look (with help of Claude) at the machine start G code where i found:

Auto-Cooling Configuration (For temps <40°C)
M142 P1 R30 S40 T45 U0.3 V0.5 W0.8 O45
How it works: Sets up automatic chamber cooling parameters:

  • R30: Minimum chamber temp threshold (30°C)
  • S40/T45: Temperature targets for different stages
  • U/V/W: Fan speed multipliers at different thresholds (30%, 50%, 80%)
  • O45: Maximum chamber temp before aggressive cooling

This creates a graduated cooling response based on material type (PLA/TPU vs PETG).

The 30% exhaust fan speed (U0.3) corresponds to what i now see when i do a print with PLA. So perhaps changing this to 10% (U0.1) may be a solution, or increasing the minimum chamber temp threshold (R30) to 35C. However, I never adapted these G code values before so I might be completely wrong here. Also these setting would indicate that 30% exhaust fan only applies when the chamber temp is above 30C, which is not the case for me when printing PLA.

What do you mean by this? You don’t have to keep adjusting it or checking it. Save the profile and you won’t have to adjust it again. As for checking it, you shouldn’t have to do that either. It’s going to do what you tell it to do in the profile. Set it, save it, and forget it. It’s quite simple and doesn’t require any babysitting.

I tend to adjust all my filament profiles as I find defaults are sub par most of the time. So maybe it’s just me thinking it’s easy? If you’re the kind of person to just run default profiles and doesn’t want to mess with settings, then I suppose I can see your point of view of not wanting to change profile settings.

The gcode change may work. Worth a shot if that’s the way you prefer to do it.

Correctly, I tend to use the standard profiles. But for this large project I’m using adjusted profiles for each filament type. I did change the AUX fan speed but didnt’ do the exhaust yet as you suggested. If I select Activate air filtration I can see the fan speed during print is set to 70%. This does not correspond with the 30% I’m seeing. Is this 70% the max fan speed? and it is lowered because the G-code instructions I mentioned earlier?

The 70% is just the default that pops up when you enable it. It assumes you’ll be changing it so it probably sets it to a super safe, over cooled rather than under cooled, default.

The 70% is not a “max”, it is the actual value the fan will run full time while it’s printing that filament. So make sure you set it to exactly the speed you want that fan to run.

No, this setting overrides the Gcode you saw.

In the PLA profile I use I just set the exhaust fan speed during printing to 10% and left the fan speed after printing to 70%. When printing with this profile the exhaust still blew at 30% during the run, and after the run at 70%. Normally it never blows this hard after a print, so I have the impression that those profile settings are actually overridden by the G-code settings. I’ll experiment a bit more with this.

Hmmm, that’s odd behavior. It should have ran at 10% if that’s what you set it to. I suspect something wasn’t saved or entered correctly. Did you already mess with the gcode settings earlier and not put them back to default?

I always have the after print set to 0% so it shuts down when the print is done. This setting is really only good if you want the chamber cooled down quickly after a print finishes.

I just printed a deflector for the aux fan - so the air blows slightly upwards rather than straight on the bed during first few layers.
Printed today (printer is in my cold outbuilding) and had no issues with warping! Completely flat print!

Why not just turn it off? Or better yet, convert it into an air scrubber.

Because I don’t always remember considering the setting is in filament settings - somewhere I rarely need to go. This way I change nothing and just print as normal.

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Not sure if it adds anything to this thread but my printers are primarily in a non-heated garage and had absolutely zero issues with bed adhesion.

Same.
No issues with adhesion, but some prints with a large surface area have some very minor warping in the corners. The aux fan deflector (a few minutes to print!) has completely fixed it.

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Which aux fan deflector did you print? I have no adhesion issues currently but I’d like to keep it in my back pocket should I run into issues on large prints

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Finally decided to go for a deflector as well, for the same reason as @IftiBashir, so i don’t have to (remember to) adjust the settings when its colder. Also, I started to use glue stick for prints i really dont want to fail. Thanks for all your input

I’ve never used glue stick. I even have a bottle of the Bambulab liquid glue - just never used it. I hat the way it leaves all that residue on the plate! lol

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