Our thoughts on the recent discussion regarding AI generated models

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just a few examples.

Bokeh

Scared to just say “No”?

Don’t go out on a limb now…

“If users report models are using AI renders to mislead…”
FIFY

Way to commit there…

“We’ll see”

lol

As always, I appreciate the iron clad commitment to not committing to taking action.

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You missed a few important words from what I said when you quoted me here.

And an entire paragraph ignored when you quoted me in the next one to provide context.

Feel free to quote me, but, leave the context in, it matters greatly when you are trying to make a point about a conversation you were not part off

I’d still argue for renders (which are not deceptive) to be allowed, especially in case creator haven’t uploaded a print profile. I did request to allow only real image as a print profile cover and the response seemed more favourable.

However I do agree that non-3d printed object or ai-gen image or any deceptive image should not be allowed to be a cover image (nor be included in the gallery, except with clear indication that this was inspiration)

Oh, then you’ll love government agencies or especially international agencies! MW here is far more committed to action and uses far stronger words than your typical “Strongly Worded Letter” from “Very Important International Body Full of Overpaid Midwits.”

I am in this camp.

I disagree, this leaves it open for those ‘creators’ who have devised it isn’t their issue to make sure it can print to dump their stuff and hope. I know it isn’t all of them, but, too many. Even if they didn’t provide a profile, that means they didn’t print on a BL machine, they should print their work on something.

I go further and say they should be labelled as such.

And I’d go with Blackstone’s formulation, that it’s better for 10 guilty person to escape than for one innocent to suffer…

How about meeting in the middle?

Assuming a creator who uploads without profile has no proof of printing - then we can safely assume all the images are either renders or “inspiration photos” or straight up fakes. The print profile, if MW accepts my suggestion, has real image as a cover. If anybody uploads a print profile with real photo as a cover image, then the cover image of print profile becomes the model cover image.

That allows space for creators to be able to “dump their stuff and hope” and makes profile creation even more of added value in that case.

If we do this, then yes.

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Since the absent of an answer from Makerworld, i did my part. Let’s see if the reported model, that is highly deceiving and not even faithful to what is shown, will get the treatment they said it would. This is my way of providing feedback, as asked. I won’t say what model or user was reported but i am curious to see what is the stance of Makerworld on that now, since they came and publicly announced “changes” on the matter.

Will not embark on another “quest” for something that won’t be done but instead will wait. I have a list of many profiles that use only images that doesn’t correspond to the model and that me, or someone near me, have printed to check if they are faithful or not. Spoiler: 99% of them are not even near of what is shown and as such, is wasted filament, time, machine wear and electricity.

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I applaud MakerWorld starting to look at the AI issue but there’s not much definitive or actionable. As others have noted there’s a lot of wiggle words in the official guidance.

The only people who will follow the new guidance are the honest people. The ones abusing the system don’t care what is “suggested” - even if it is “strongly suggested”.

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I wonder, is there way to see that penalty?

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A very harsh “excuse me, please don’t”.

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While are we are on the topic of actual images of the model as the cover photo… I’ve noticed that you need to correct a few of your own models.



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Please correct me if i’m wrong.

Also genuine question (unrelated to this topic)

What exactly is the difference between these?

FullGyro, Spinner and gyro but from the pictures it looks like they all spin the same way? Couldn’t really make out the difference as the description is also the exact same apart from one sentence. I am not familiar with your spinners.

I have corrected these immediately using the correct artwork from the large source file with all of them in.

You will have noted the profile picture was always the correct one as required.

I appreciate the tip, dissentious as it is. As the following question shows.

The differences are clearly stated in the description of each and everyone and the info image of each one.

Some prefer the Gyro, some prefer the Spinner, and others still prefer the FullGyro.

They know the difference, as does BL who marked many of them Featured.

You could of course look at each one and discover the different mechanics of each one and read the comments as to why each one is different and why each one is loved by those who download them,

The kids, the parents, the teachers, the health specialists.

The tens of thousands of them know.

Be a better forum community member, you did this to catch me out with fake rubbish and pretend reasons just because I disagreed with your misuse and out-of-context comments you tried to use against me earlier.

Be better.

I actually don’t care if you disagree or not. Did i maybe miss the part where it was strictly about the cover images? Maybe. Did it sound like you were essentially slandering another user in general? To me yes.

Also if you want to uphold others to your ideals then others should be able to do the same with you, don’t you think?

If they were that clear to me i wouldn’t have asked.


3 Free spinning sections vs 3 gyro sections but on the pictures both seem to be able to move in the same directions, hence me asking what the difference is. A simple explanation instead of a snarky reply would’ve been much more helpful don’t you think?

Uh, cool? Not sure why you feel the need to mention that.

So then you claim he was slandering someone then you attack his models? Hi Pot, I’m Kettle.

If you had read, you wouldn’t have asked. FIFY

Hi Pot, I’m Kettle.

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Wheels and ball bearings move in the same direction, yet look the same and have different uses and needs. Balloons filled with air vs helium look the same, but, guess what they are different?

Many things look the same but are different. That doesn’t make them the same.

What a simplistic and reductive thought process you have.

Facts aren’t snarky.

Because you implied I did something wrong and I said far more than that, I suggested everyone else but you who read the differences worked out the differences.

Missed this, apologies. It means, while you have issue, MW does not. In the end that’s all that matters. Don’t pick fights. There’s no need.

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You mean the ones with valid faults? yes.

exactly the opposite. See below

is the reason why i added this. I am genuinely asking what the difference is. (I was about to add another sentence to the original message to make it more clear but accidentally discarded it while quoted something else.)

i have no issue with the spinners. I just don’t see the difference or just don’t understand it.

Which i did
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not with the spinners, at least that wasn’t my intention ( Remember my “genuine question”?)

OK, I’ll play along.

Your question was genuine, and it’s been answered. These aren’t the droids you’re looking for. Move along.

If I hurt your feelings, apologies. I think we can agree this is over?