Scared to just say âNoâ?
Donât go out on a limb nowâŚ
âIf users report models are using AI renders to misleadâŚâ
FIFY
Way to commit thereâŚ
âWeâll seeâ
lol
As always, I appreciate the iron clad commitment to not committing to taking action.
You missed a few important words from what I said when you quoted me here.
And an entire paragraph ignored when you quoted me in the next one to provide context.
Feel free to quote me, but, leave the context in, it matters greatly when you are trying to make a point about a conversation you were not part off
Iâd still argue for renders (which are not deceptive) to be allowed, especially in case creator havenât uploaded a print profile. I did request to allow only real image as a print profile cover and the response seemed more favourable.
However I do agree that non-3d printed object or ai-gen image or any deceptive image should not be allowed to be a cover image (nor be included in the gallery, except with clear indication that this was inspiration)
Oh, then youâll love government agencies or especially international agencies! MW here is far more committed to action and uses far stronger words than your typical âStrongly Worded Letterâ from âVery Important International Body Full of Overpaid Midwits.â
I am in this camp.
I disagree, this leaves it open for those âcreatorsâ who have devised it isnât their issue to make sure it can print to dump their stuff and hope. I know it isnât all of them, but, too many. Even if they didnât provide a profile, that means they didnât print on a BL machine, they should print their work on something.
I go further and say they should be labelled as such.
And Iâd go with Blackstoneâs formulation, that itâs better for 10 guilty person to escape than for one innocent to sufferâŚ
How about meeting in the middle?
Assuming a creator who uploads without profile has no proof of printing - then we can safely assume all the images are either renders or âinspiration photosâ or straight up fakes. The print profile, if MW accepts my suggestion, has real image as a cover. If anybody uploads a print profile with real photo as a cover image, then the cover image of print profile becomes the model cover image.
That allows space for creators to be able to âdump their stuff and hopeâ and makes profile creation even more of added value in that case.
If we do this, then yes.
Since the absent of an answer from Makerworld, i did my part. Letâs see if the reported model, that is highly deceiving and not even faithful to what is shown, will get the treatment they said it would. This is my way of providing feedback, as asked. I wonât say what model or user was reported but i am curious to see what is the stance of Makerworld on that now, since they came and publicly announced âchangesâ on the matter.
Will not embark on another âquestâ for something that wonât be done but instead will wait. I have a list of many profiles that use only images that doesnât correspond to the model and that me, or someone near me, have printed to check if they are faithful or not. Spoiler: 99% of them are not even near of what is shown and as such, is wasted filament, time, machine wear and electricity.
I applaud MakerWorld starting to look at the AI issue but thereâs not much definitive or actionable. As others have noted thereâs a lot of wiggle words in the official guidance.
The only people who will follow the new guidance are the honest people. The ones abusing the system donât care what is âsuggestedâ - even if it is âstrongly suggestedâ.
I wonder, is there way to see that penalty?
A very harsh âexcuse me, please donâtâ.
While are we are on the topic of actual images of the model as the cover photo⌠Iâve noticed that you need to correct a few of your own models.
Please correct me if iâm wrong.
Also genuine question (unrelated to this topic)
What exactly is the difference between these?
FullGyro, Spinner and gyro but from the pictures it looks like they all spin the same way? Couldnât really make out the difference as the description is also the exact same apart from one sentence. I am not familiar with your spinners.
Iâve noticed that you need to correct a few of your own models.
I have corrected these immediately using the correct artwork from the large source file with all of them in.
You will have noted the profile picture was always the correct one as required.
I appreciate the tip, dissentious as it is. As the following question shows.
What exactly is the difference between these?
The differences are clearly stated in the description of each and everyone and the info image of each one.
Some prefer the Gyro, some prefer the Spinner, and others still prefer the FullGyro.
They know the difference, as does BL who marked many of them Featured.
You could of course look at each one and discover the different mechanics of each one and read the comments as to why each one is different and why each one is loved by those who download them,
The kids, the parents, the teachers, the health specialists.
The tens of thousands of them know.
Be a better forum community member, you did this to catch me out with fake rubbish and pretend reasons just because I disagreed with your misuse and out-of-context comments you tried to use against me earlier.
Be better.
Be a better forum community member, you did this to catch me out with fake rubbish and pretend reasons just because I disagreed with your misuse and out-of-context comments you tried to use against me earlier.
I actually donât care if you disagree or not. Did i maybe miss the part where it was strictly about the cover images? Maybe. Did it sound like you were essentially slandering another user in general? To me yes.
Also if you want to uphold others to your ideals then others should be able to do the same with you, donât you think?
The differences are clearly stated in the description of each and everyone and the info image of each one.
If they were that clear to me i wouldnât have asked.
3 Free spinning sections vs 3 gyro sections but on the pictures both seem to be able to move in the same directions, hence me asking what the difference is. A simple explanation instead of a snarky reply wouldâve been much more helpful donât you think?
They know the difference, as does BL who marked many of them Featured.
Uh, cool? Not sure why you feel the need to mention that.
I actually donât care if you disagree or not. Did i maybe miss the part where it was strictly about the cover images? Maybe. Did it sound like you were essentially slandering another user in general? To me yes.
So then you claim he was slandering someone then you attack his models? Hi Pot, Iâm Kettle.
If they were that clear to me i wouldnât have asked.
If you had read, you wouldnât have asked. FIFY
simple explanation instead of a snarky reply wouldâve been much more helpful donât you think?
Hi Pot, Iâm Kettle.
but on the pictures both seem to be able to move in the same directions
Wheels and ball bearings move in the same direction, yet look the same and have different uses and needs. Balloons filled with air vs helium look the same, but, guess what they are different?
Many things look the same but are different. That doesnât make them the same.
What a simplistic and reductive thought process you have.
A simple explanation instead of a snarky reply
Facts arenât snarky.
Uh, cool? Not sure why you feel the need to mention that.
Because you implied I did something wrong and I said far more than that, I suggested everyone else but you who read the differences worked out the differences.
Uh, cool? Not sure why you feel the need to mention that.
Missed this, apologies. It means, while you have issue, MW does not. In the end thatâs all that matters. Donât pick fights. Thereâs no need.
So then you claim he was slandering someone then you attack his models? Hi Pot, Iâm Kettle.
You mean the ones with valid faults? yes.
It means, while you have issue
exactly the opposite. See below
Also genuine question (unrelated to this topic)
is the reason why i added this. I am genuinely asking what the difference is. (I was about to add another sentence to the original message to make it more clear but accidentally discarded it while quoted something else.)
i have no issue with the spinners. I just donât see the difference or just donât understand it.
If you had read, you wouldnât have asked.
Which i did
see below
Couldnât really make out the difference as the description is also the exact same apart from one sentence.
Because you implied I did something wrong
not with the spinners, at least that wasnât my intention ( Remember my âgenuine questionâ?)
OK, Iâll play along.
Your question was genuine, and itâs been answered. These arenât the droids youâre looking for. Move along.
If I hurt your feelings, apologies. I think we can agree this is over?