Am I the Only one who expected the P2S to have the H2S size build plate?
I have been looking to purchase an H2S, but when I got the email about the P1S refresh, I had my hopes set on a P1 series printer with a bigger build volume at a lower price than the H2 series. I guess maybe I had my expectations set too high, so I was a little disappointed with the upgrades.
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Yes…
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If they made it massive:
- People who wanted a small 2nd gen printer that fits on their desk would be disappointed
- It wouldn’t be just a “refresh”
- It would be much more expensive
- It would basically be the same as the H2S?
It just wouldn’t make any sense for them to do
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the H2S is the budget version of the larger build volume printers it will be H2S < H2D < H2C
so it’s the H2S you were looking for all along
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+2 for Yes. If you want a P2S with a bigger build plate, just get the H2S? Thats prob the main difference between the series. I wouldnt expect the P series in general to go bigger than the 256 build area ever.
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Explain the thought process to me on this one, you wanted a CoreXY, the same size as the H2S but named P2S?
Like, why? the H2S is just a P series machine but larger, like, why would they make 2 machines with the same build volume with the same motion system?
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My thought was the P1S, without the current updates, just a bigger build Plate.
I have only had the Bambu brand machine for a year now, I guess I don’t have that much knowlege on the Bambu Lab printers. So what is the difference between the P2S and X1C.
Functionally nothing of consequence anymore, the X1C is basically redundant now
And thats essentially the H2S, its using the A1 hotend on a coreXY platform, given the volume increase you’re not really going to get a cheaper middle option from bambu as then it would make little sense for the H2S to exist
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I see it as a benefit that the P2 kept it’s size. A & P Series are used a lot in farms or for massive output. Being able to use the P1 build plates on the P2 is nice for many of them. It’s also a good size to fit on standard warehouse racks. Of course they could also release a second larger P2 model, but it’s price would much likely be so close to the H2S that it wouldn’t make that much sense imho.
When I got my H2S finding a good space / desk for it was much more challenging than for the A1M and P1S I have. It makes sense to make the mass market printers not too large and massive.
I think the P2S is a fantastic successor of P1S and it’s price is even more attractive than it was before with the upgrades it got.
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How would that be any different from the H2S though?
On the spec, is an updated P1S (which is already a great printer) with swappable nozzle, better rods, a full 256x256 plate, better screen, better camera, and hardened steel nozzle and extruder gear.
At basically the same price. On paper, is a very good deal.
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I guess when you put it that way then yes it would make no sense to make it into a bigger printer. I currently have in my printer inventory X1C printer and I love the technology on it. I just bought a P1S and am waiting its arrival I was worried that I might have made a mistake and jumped the gun when buying it. I am trying to start my own print farm and while most of my product is small enough to fit onto my current printers I also have a couple different products that would require a larger build plate. so I will definitely be buying the H2S in the future.
They could of course bring at some point an P2S Plus or similar in a H2S body, but I don’t think that Bambu likes to clutter / spam the market with too many models that just have small differences.
Some other companies do that and they’ve a ton of different models that just have minimal differences between them. I doubt that his helps the customer to make a purchase decision and it makes it unnecessary complex for the supply chain, repair wiki and such.
Like you said - the larger size is usually much less needed than the standard build volume. The same way as special technical materials are usually a bit less needed for most farms.
So a good amount of A1 / P1/P2 can cover most daily needs and one or a few H2S are then the special horses when larger size or special materials are required.
Yes, you are the only one.
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The no clutter of printers is the reason I switched from Creality to Bambu Lab in the first place.
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I mean they could if they wanted to spam pointless versions of the printer that have zero functional differences, if its in a H chassis its going to be able to use all the H series addons, there would be little point using the same chassis only to then selectively block all the addons given the savings from their point of view is basically nothing as they would have to re-design the P series head to fit on rails rather than rods, its partly going to be why the P2 uses rods instead of rails
H2S is probably what you were expecting. P2S is an updated version of the P1S. H2S is quite reasonable. Since it was around 1G on its release, I wouldn’t be surprised if we get some holiday pricing with the H2S / AMS2 combo… or their anniversary sale.
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I think the X1C still has lidar
The H2S is the top tier machine with only one nozzle. For sure not a bigger P2S.
Has lot’s more sensors, cameras and capabilities. But the P2S is already a good successor to the P1S.
All main faults are corrected:
- Camera
- Display
- Mounting points of build plate
- Quick Change nozzle like on H2S as well High Flow nozzles
A heated chamber and some smart calibration would have made a X2C from the P2S.
Maybe there will be an upgrade or a higher X tier to come later.
I do not expect a laser in the P2S or a cutter as the build volume is already compact, nor
do I expect Vortek nozzle changers here. But that topic is open for all BBL printer.
For the price remaining it is a good upgrade. If there will be bigger - striped down versions of the H2 size priters … we will see, may in 1-2 years as BBL has a real tool changer. Not to cannibalize their own products.
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It does, but given that its now the only machine that has it we can probably assume it either wasn’t all that useful or that something better came along that did the same job but better