PEBA doesn't bounce

I printed it in PEBA SainSmart with X1C, the manufacturer’s official filament profile, 100% linear infill and Arachne wall generator, speed 40, and manual supports.

It’s a model of an airless volleyball purchased on Cults3d; the diameter and weight are equivalent to those of a standard ball.

It simply doesn’t bounce; it returns about 10% of the applied kinetic energy.

I think the ball’s wall thickness is too thin; it’s about 2.5mm. I’m asking the PEBA ball printing gurus for confirmation: am I correct in my opinion, or are there any changes I can make to make it bounce properly?

Thanks everyone.

Have you used their shared Bambu Filament Profile?

Paid model designers don’t provide support? Do you know if it’s supposed to bounce or just a static model? (I know it should bounce slightly, but it’s possible there’s some geometry that’s not letting it bounce properly)

I used this peba, and concentric infill. It bounces like a basketball. I did not follow any directions. Just ran all the calibrations first.

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Do you have a link to the file you printed?

Malc, it’s a paid for file. He may provide the link to where he bought it from, though, so you may get the required info.

Thanks everyone for the replies.

I printed with the Bamboo Filament Profile published by SainSmart, and overall, the print came out well, and I was able to remove the supports without any major issues.

I think the problem is with the model, not the print.

This is the link to the model: https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/airless-volleyball-stl-3mf-multicolor

I think the ball is too thin; right now, it’s about 2.5mm, while the basketball seems to be about 10 or 11mm.

@MeshMaster, could you confirm this?

I don’t have the skills to thicken the ball’s wall, and I’ll eventually resize the basketball to a volleyball size.

But before wasting more PEBA filament, I’d like to make sure the lack of bounce is caused by the thickness.

Thanks again

Couldn’t you try one of the many free ones on MakerWorld?

This is one of many, or search airless ball on MakerWorld.

Yes, thanks.

That’s what I’ll do in the end.

I started with the idea of ​​printing a volleyball for my daughter, who plays this sport; I wanted it to have the same size, weight, and bounce as a regulation ball.

From what I’m seeing, if I scale a regular ball down to the size of a volleyball (204mm in diameter), the weight will be significantly higher than the regulation weight.

I’ll weigh over 400g, when it should be around 250g.

I also weigh over 400g.

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You’re right, I speak English very badly and that’s why I rely on the automatic translator but it seems that this time it wasn’t very correct; I apologize for it.

Not a problem, I make jokes (which I think are funny).

It was too easy a ‘typo’ for me to miss.

Not a reflection on your English as I had no idea it was translated or that English wasn’t your first language.

First question: are you using PEBA Rebound? Otherwise, it will perform much like TPU in terms of rebound. If you want it to be genuinely bouncy, you need PEBA Rebound.

Yes, I’m using this one. The SainSmart PEBA High Rebound 90A.

If the model you are printing is meant to bounce, it should behave the same way.
I have made a few toys for my cats, and the fully solid ones bounce the best. Hollow models need enough wall thickness to store sufficient energy and rebound properly, so to speak.

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The designer didn’t specify whether the model should bounce or not. I also believe the walls are too thin, so I slightly reduced the dimensions of a basketball designed to bounce to the size of a volleyball. This reduced the thickness of the ball from 2.5mm to 12.4mm.

Time will tell if I’m right; there’s still a day to go until the printing is complete.

Thanks everyone for the advices.

PEBA Rebound, or any other brand with rebound properties, will provide more or less bounce, but changing the wall thickness will significantly affect that behaviour. Walls that are too thin will simply contain less material to store and release the rebound energy.

As I was saying, I tried printing a thicker ball.
Now the wall is about 12mm, and things have improved a lot; obviously, it's heavier, but it finally bounces as it should.
Thanks for the advice.
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