Please make a Bondtech CHT hotend assembly

Any news ? I now got the nozzle removable hot end, waiting for the CHT nozzle to be shipped :slight_smile:

Did you manage to set a new PID to avoid thermal runaway ?


For information here is the Nozzle that come with the replacement kit.

I am in touch with Bondtech to see what Nozzle could match or not the best, probably M6 RepRap ?


I asked Bambu Lab in a ticket for the PID but got no answer so far…

Yes the RepRap size is the good one, I am using this size and fits perfectly

I did not experiment quality prints between different nozzle or hotend, I just measured the increased flow rate, everything else seems to be on par

Improvements: You can replace the nozzle instead of the whole hotend assembly, you get access to CHT and CHT clones and cheap hardened nozzle, tons of advantages so far

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The machining complexity of that would be nearly impossible in bambu’s all in one design. In my testing with 20mm long nozzles, multiple throats creates more drag than it helps flow. I have data to back that up. Long CHT is bad for flow.

Just because the heat block is small, does not mean the output of the heater cartridge is. Its 50watt which is bigger than most basic printers. The small mass means it can transfer the heat more efficiently to the bore where it is needed. IMO its one of the best designs.

The biggest bottleneck on speed is material properties. Many people do not have any clue that every PLA even between colors can have vastly different melt indexes which leads to wildly different rates of success at different speeds.

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40W IIRC, but you’re right, I was misremembering specs on others. It’s seemingly still more than most printers, even those pushing out high flow.

This is a little bit like saying, “we could extrude faster if people chose to extrude soup rather than plastic”.

For considering speed bottlenecks it’s best to just consider a pure base resin filament and work from there. Printers fundamentally cannot change the filaments that people are printing with, and there’s always going to be a compromise made with other material properties if more filaments are optimised for high flow printing.

Would you be able to share your test setup and the data you got from it?

This is just not enought to go over 35mm3/s (there is a video of CNC kitchen explaining that, it is not proportional), When I was triying CHT on Bambulab I was stuck at 35mm3/s because the temperature was not able to go over 220°C, setting 230°C it was sticking to 220/221°C when I was printing at 35mm3/s. But anyway it is still more than 50% improvment in speed, wich is already very very good.

I only tryied 0.6 CHT, am gonna order a 0.4 nozzle now :slight_smile:


So the ceramic heater is 48W at 24V 12ohm
You’re about right, I’ve hit a bottleneck at around 35mm³/s on with CHT nozzle on the Bambu cloned hotend

As I was printing a speed flow rate tower, the flow kept increasing but around 35 the temperature kept decreasing, after 3minutes of being off the printer gave me a temp runaway error and stopped print, it was almost 20C under set printing temp because the cool filament was flowing too fast and actively cooling the hotend faster than the heater / PID was doing its job.

But some other user mentioned that with this hotend and CHT nozzle he did not have this temperature / heater issue, so I think this need much more tests

So… I’ve wired 2 ceramic heaters in parallel and put the second one on the other flat side of the hotend. This is not recommended at all and it might damage some electrical components, but it works for me, it heats faster and allows to bypass the previously mentioned bottleneck. I have a ticket with Bambu Lab, they do not recommend this but they recognize this might work as well, so do what you want with that

I can now reach above 40mm³/s with PETG

I am also about to design an external electrical circuit to allow 4 ceramic heaters on all sides of the hotend for super fast heating and no more heating issues

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Adding a secondary ceramic heater is a good idea if the motherboard can handle this power.

No problem with the heat breaker ?

I am not sure you will get enought power from the card for four ceramic heaters : 48W*4 = 192W it is a lot of power.

EDIT: and I really doubt the heat breaker will still be able to play its role


For 2 heater, the toolhead board has 1 component getting hotter than usual

No issues with heatbreak

for the 4 heater I wrote that I am designing external circuit, I will not rely on the Bambu, this is is not safe

The heatbreak will still play its role perfectly because we are not heating above 300C, we don’t go hotter, we just go faster at heating, no the same

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Do you happen to know of an stl online for the forms to make the silicone socks?

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No sorry, the one I got in spare from Bamublab fit perfectly, just a bit of the nozzle is outside, I will probably design & publish a mold soon


@Nairod : I am interrested in adding a second ceramic heater, could you give more information about the component that get hotter, wich one (photo) and how much it get hotter ? Basically I would like to be sure that it is safe for the mother board ?

Sure let’s talk about this on Discord if you’re OK, add me : Nairod #1258

I’ll send you thermal pics in a few hours

Thanks, that will be the opportunity to dicover Discord for me ^^

Bondtech licensed the patent to the cht, they didnt invent the idea

It is pattented by 3DSolex, there is a CNC Kitchen video & blog post that explain everything about CHT nozzle from design to why it works so well, history etc…

@radialincorporated: Yes we all know this is a great idea of yours

Any interest in a Bambu/Revo quick change? I’ve got one in machining phase now.

I am also interested in doing such a modification, I’m also curious to know if BBL current limits these components but seeing as how you were able to heat up the hotend faster its probably not the case? Only thing that concerns me is the doubling in current from 2 amps to about 4 amps and how that could affect components of the printer if there is not a current limit in place.

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Yes, the cooling sucks. Needed an aux fan on both sides to cover for the ■■■■ fan on the head.

Not precisely “Bondtech” but uses Revo CHT that uses Bondtech IP.
So far testing has yielded great results with both the 24v 40w and 24v 60w Revo Heatercores with Revo nozzles across their range. Just have to mod connectors on the heater core to match the X1C connectors, P1P requires more work right now I just have spliced cabling because of the PCB connector they chose.

Lemme know if you have questions!~