Point farming profiles

Is pretty obvious that it breaks some rules so it can be reported. I’m thinking of this one in particular:

Models that only have slight variations but are uploaded as “Remix” will be taken down.

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Obviously people like it, I’m not seeing the problem. Is there envy involved? I mean the thing has 11k+ downloads.
They probably made it fit their cat and then there’s a ton of crazy cat ladies out there that don’t want to or know how to do it, this the crazy cat lady was formed.

What you said and how you meant it is the problem, it is wide spreaded over makerworld and it is how many people think, unfortunately.
Until it’s their time and their work that starts being stolen. And then those same people that say “yeah it’s ok” will come and cry about their rights.

Problem is that is not sized for other cats, it’s sized for his cat. If a person has a bigger cat, will have to resize it, even if they don’t know how. The problem is that people go in another wesite, download a model, resize it and then come here, upload it and say “hey, i created this and it’s awesome”. Remix button is there for a reason. But you are right, we are not the police but it seems that makerworld only gets “cleaned” if us, the users, report such models/users.

Should we all stop reporting to see what happens? I bet that most people that do hard work in their models will start thinking again about uploading them anywhere. I would…

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By all means, if it’ll make you feel better reporting a model that potentially 11k+ other people like, do it if it doesn’t fit in your criteria.

Let Bambu determine what it is and if it qualifies. What’s the user have, like 10 total models?

Oh paleeeeeasase. There’s more cats in this world than there are people. why are you hating on the poor kitty?

My criteria is only one. Print and have fun! Supporting thieves is something that is getting everyday more and more clear that many people do. Behave here like in real life, that’s my own saying. You do you, again i am not the police nor i want to be. But… i will repeat, makerworld is “clean” because of us, the users, that report said thieves. Maybe we should start not reporting… that would be an experience i would do anytime :wink:

Here at home we love cats. We have printed several of those masks. Nothing against cats. Maybe makerworld should be run by them… don’t know, it would probably work better :sweat_smile:

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Which cat mask is being stolen? I saw what lengths someone above went to, just to see how close this one was, compared to suspected original, I assume.

I had a cat, Norman, was a good cat. Never again though, the liter box is for the birds (figuratively speaking of course)

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“There can only be one Batman… or Catman in this case…”

Go up a few posts and it’s there with both models linked.

“Norman was a good cat, Norman made me clean the litter box everyday. I hate Norman! I hate his poop” :upside_down_face:

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Example a: 3DPremiun | Published - MakerWorld
Example b: Budahazi_Design | Published - MakerWorld

This is what I consider point farming, they dump mass models with little to no effort in making descriptions other than their affiliate links, disclaimers they can’t make money because they’re copyrighted yada yada… Most often the print profiles are null because of fake print evidence, but claim to have optimised the file (file name change?). What makes me laugh is the few comments in the first example were supports ripping off the “optimised” models.

The second example has used injection moulded toys as their models. It’s the modern take of the good old days of mp3 ripping. Very little to no effort and until recently no printed evidence. Now they’re trawling their comment section for printed evidence.

@Makerworld shrugs their shoulders. They have no backbone and won’t follow through with action on blatant repeat offienders. Weak.

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Which can be reported since using somebody else’s photo if done without authorization is copyright violation. Yep, even if user “shares” photo of successful print, profile creator can’t use user’s photo without explicit agreement. And even then I’m not sure if it’s not prohibited to use other people’s photo. In case it’s not allowed then the only person who can upload print profile is one that can make photo of printed object.

The MW report saw this applied reaction. The cynic in me knows the “shared” image owners gave approval overnight. But typically support takes the path of least resistance.

Definitely. It takes time. If you sit down at the computer every morning and spend 2 hours reporting maybe 50 models and then maybe 5 to 15 of them are removed because of the rules, which everyone interprets a little differently or don’t seem to apply to some users. Then it is out of proportion.

Many people care about the community, if I may put it that way. Rules should be adhered to, etc. But they are fighting against an overpowering opponent, similar to the boss fight in the last level of a game. Do something else in the meantime, take care of the things that are important to you. Things on Makerworld will go their way, you’ll see.

Best regards!

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You are missing the point and many other do the same on MW. Is not about the usefulness of the model, the problem is that if it is useful the thanks should go to each contributor proportionately. In my opinion the designer should get most of the “thanks” (in likes, points, boosts, pats on the back , whatever) but also the reposter that made it known on a different platform. I get it, he also contributed to the success but the weight of his contribution should be debated in another thread.

This thread is about the point farming profiles and practices and this qualifies pretty easily here. I don’t think you can convince someone that he didn’t actually get a successful model from somebody , made little adjustments (that can be made by anybody in Bambu Studio) and released it on Maker World just to gather points.

Yes there is merit in that too, like I said, but MW didn’t declare that as a target and for some “the mission” of MW is one of the strongest reasons to be here. For these people if that mission remains just an empty statement is a big loss. Also the meritocracy was one of the core principles it was started on and this dilutes it heavily.

As for the envy, it really depends on your standards. I guess he will be envied by those that have point gathering as the primary objective but I really doubt others will. They might be enraged but not by envy.

And again, this is not about the fact that they gather points, the problem is that they eat on the points that could be available for models that are new, with a lot of work involved in making them. I really don’t see a reason why such a model needs to get boosts for example. The reason boosts exists is that some niche models that involved a lot of work didn’t get enough downloads. People could “reward” the makers for designing them as a form of compensation for the lack of downloads.

My opinion of MW support is at an all-time low, my last message to them involved a fit of laughter directed at the level of ineptness in a dragged out ticket. Needless to say they wouldn’t survive if this was their main source of income, it’s unnerving how ignorant they’re prepared to be.

You guys…I chuckle.
Not because you don’t make good points, cause you do.

I chuckle cause no matter what you do, this is what Makerworld wants.

I opened the app this morning out of curiosity and I scrolled quite a bit to see only a small handful of real pics. Nearly all are carefully created renders that will look nothing at all like the print. There are tons. You can see multiples from the same people.

Look at ratings. Just like what’s been noticed, junk reviews.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. It’s content. It’s traffic. Points are a small price to pay for the visability, the filament sales, printer sales. Hell they do the same thing with reviews, giving printers away just for visibility.

The “rules” are an illusion. They could care less. Why do you think reports are so inconsistent?

Keep gong back and forth. BL couldn’t care less.

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I’d say it the other way: there’s no reason to waste time looking for rule-breakers or being “hall monitor”, but at the same time there’s a calling to speak out against rule breaking (if one’s religious, then multiple faiths have some sort of obligations to expose wrongdoing). So if you see some blatant rule breaking do report it, but don’t waste your time on the report nor seek it out neither invest emotionally in it.

//EDIT:

Speaking of point farming… Imagine if a successful report of a rule violation was rewarded with 1 point. It’d be fun to see one type of point farming vs another :smiley:

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Would create more work for MW, and you see how it’s going so far.

Well, this is not about wasting your time especially to search and police the users but if you do find it by chance, just drop it here and sometime, maybe, if it’s no longer a go for BL, it will be easier for them to do something about this. They will not have the excuse of not knowing about it. Or maybe they will change the rules to incorporate this type of users. :man_shrugging:

Wanting to show someone the model I noticed that it is not listed anymore. I would say that Maker World moderation actually works if somebody points out the problem and that it was indeed a problem for them too.

https://makerworld.com/en/@3Dprint1UP

I had the impression that this guy was long gone since last time it was mentioned around here… redirecting people to youtube and to the fiverr guy, that must be him… oh well, move along :upside_down_face:

One Part will go to homeless children that dont have the opportunity or money to buy their own Nintendo console and Pokemon game.

:ok_hand:

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Three people on Makerworld have the same Grinch ornament. They all are “remixes” from printables where all they changed was they “painted” them for the AMS. If you follow the links to printables they are all “remixes” where all they did was “paint” them for the MMU. Where did those “remixes” get the model? From Joseph Prusa’s profile…

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