Print Bed Issues

It has come to my attention that users are STILL ridiculously oblivious to basic skills and knowledge after multiple years of immersion.

My hometown library has a Creality K2 Plus. It’s an amazing machine… but the librarian in charge of it is SURE that the only way to upkeep the PEI plate is by putting copious amounts of glue on it. After talking a lot about it with him (and calling Creality customer support infront of him), he was still sure in his ways because ‘why would Creality sell glue for their printers if they don’t want you to use it’

This is, of course, an innacurate opinion. Customer support confirmed my stance, and Mr. Librarian decided to try washing the plate!! :folded_hands::folded_hands:

Unfortunately.. he didn’t use soap. He says that ‘the soap makes the build plate feel slick’, and that it is ineffective. I have therefore come to the conclusion that he has either never washed dishes, he has never used soap while washing dishes, or he doesn’t rinse off his dishes after he scrubs them.

I’m really hoping that entually he will ‘come to’, but until then the community suffers unbearable amounts of under adhesion and failed prints. ALL of these issues would be solved if print bed brands made a massive deal about washing plates and if Creality more obviosly specified scenarios in which glue is okay to use. I think that Bambu does a resonble job informing new and experienced users, but I still know Bambu enthusiests who fall for the lure of the glue…

I will be submitting a support ticket or similar version highlighting this, and I recommend that you do the same. Unless you disagree strongly with me, this feels like an easy way to support and enrich the 3d printing community in an impactful way. Keep me updated if you find any information, and thanks for reading this!

-Leaf

Some people are just beyond help. Do it yourself, he’s not gonna follow you into the bathroom.

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I was genuinely thinking about washing it after the library opened but before he came into work…I need the printers large build volume for an engineering project that I’m working on, and it’s not printing because the build plate is so dirty!! But, instead of listening to my intrusive thought, I have compiled a list of HIGH QUALITY INFORMATION regarding this topic from many popular 3d printing brands perspectives. I’ve edited the information slightly to point out the important areas, and I have formatted it in a very obvious way. I will give the information to the included parties, and hopefully it will have an impact!

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Official Bambu Labs Recomendation

https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/filament-acc/acc/pei-plate-clean-guide

We recommend cleaning the printing surface with a basic sponge and dishwashing detergent, rinsing it with warm water, and drying it with a regular paper towel.

The reason why we recommend detergent for cleaning the textured plate is due to its textured surface. Alcohol might just spread the oils on the print surface instead of removing it. Detergent acts as a degreaser and using a sponge or scrubber to wash the plate will ensure the detergent reaches inside the textured surface to clean it and improve adhesion.

After applying the dishwashing detergent to the Textured PEI plate, it’s important to scrub it with a sponge or a brush to completely remove any leftover models and grease.

Also make sure that you avoid touching the print surface with your fingers and try to handle the plate from the sides.

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Official Creality Store Recommendation

https://store.creality.com/blogs/all/how-to-clean-3d-printer-bed

Start by letting your printer bed cool down. Once it’s safe to touch, use a scraper or putty knife to gently remove any bits of filament or debris that are loosely attached to the bed.

Then wipe down the entire surface of the bed with isopropyl alcohol to remove any oils, fingerprints, and leftover residue. Use a soft sponge or cloth with dish soap to gently scrub the surface. Rinse it thoroughly with warm water and dry it with a clean cloth.

If you handle the bed, try to do so with clean hands or wear gloves to minimize transferring oils to the surface. For PEI surfaces, avoid using acetone as it can damage the material. Stick to isopropyl alcohol for routine cleaning.

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Official Prusa Research Forum Recommendation

https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk3s-mk3-hardware-firmware-and-software-help/pei-bed-cleaning-methods/#post-141005

Consumer-grade solvents won’t break grease down completely, just enough to ease removal. Unless you’ve both broken the grease down and physically removed it, adhesion will remain poor.

Hot water and dish soap are FAR more effective for the following reason. Volume. There’s just so much more soap and water being used to wash and rinse that it is more likely to break down grease sufficiently and wash it away.

Soap is a surfactant and causes material to lift from surfaces. Water acts to dilute the soap and rinse soap and lift material away.

Hot Water wash: Handle the bed only by the edges. Wash the bed in hot water, use a fresh paper towel as a wash cloth, with a few drops of plain dish soap (Dawn, unscented, no anti-bacterial, etc.). Rinse well in hot water - if you have very soft water, rinse a bit longer. Dry the bed with a fresh paper towel. Handle the bed only by the edges.

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Official Additive+ Recommendation

https://additiveplus.com/how-to-clean-your-3d-printer-bed-and-remove-3d-prints/?srsltid=AfmBOoofD7oLWaYF_ZwwG0dsqJF0JMzXMaztGMhtPRHeiionxzNplXRs

Polyetherimide (PEI). Strong, durable surface, works well for lots of filaments. Sensitive to IPA/acetone

PEI should not be exposed to harsh chemicals or IPA and acetone at all often. Instead, wash thoroughly with warm water and soap. Make sure to NOT touch the build plate after washing it, as it will get oily fingerprints back on it.

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Official Snapmaker Recommendation

https://www.snapmaker.com/blog/how-to-clean-your-3d-printer-bed/

Warm Water & Soap: In cases where the stains are tougher or have heavier residues, warm water with mild dish soap usually helps. The bed should be rinsed and dried thoroughly before use. Don’t soak parts attached to the printer.

PEI-coated surfaces are sensitive to oils and fingerprints, so avoid touching them directly after cleaning.

IPA is fine for general cleaning, but when using it to clean with low adhesion, you might as well wash it in warm, soapy water. Use acetone only occasionally to revive it. The more you do this, however, the more the sheet will degrade.

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Official Sovol Recommendation

https://www.sovol3d.com/blogs/news/how-to-clean-build-plate-safely-easy-steps-3d-printer?srsltid=AfmBOorICS-EAXXbVGvAvUnNZK0cXfJ4V8SQWo8yBohfTPPoGCHk4k_6

Warm water and a mild detergent soap make a safe cleaning solution for most build plates.

Use a basic sponge to spread the soap. This helps break down oils and leftover glue. Rinse the plate with warm water after you clean it. Make sure your soap does not have oils or moisturizers. Avoid acetone. It can damage PEI surfaces and other coatings.

If you notice stubborn spots, let the plate soak for a few minutes. This helps loosen up any stuck-on material. Remember, specialized cleaners can sometimes work better for tough stains, but plain dish soap is safe and effective for regular cleaning.

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Resources

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp9YtXFFOMQ&t=2s

https://www.gambody.com/blog/helpful-tips-for-cleaning-your-3d-printer-bed-pei-glass-magnetic/?srsltid=AfmBOooSm15dl4cDTIe-9

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https://www.eufymake.com/blogs/maintenance-guides/how-to-clean-3d-printer-bed

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In closing, it seems to be widely agreed upon that glue should only be used when you don’t have a specialized print bed, when the print bed is low quality, when the print bed is of a CERTAIN material, or when printing objects from materials that adhere much too well or way too little. (Nylon and TPU)

Acetone seems to be looked down upon by most, and should probably not be used at all. Isopropyl alcohol has proven itself to be a good way of ‘loosening’ difficult grease marks, but overtime it harms PEI plates.

Washing the plate reasonably often, (three-five times per month) is overall the most agreed upon way to have incredible adhesion, super good first layer quality, and unharmed build plates.

Too much glue, (more than a thin sparse layer after a wash), has proven itself to lead to WORSE adhesion, WORSE print quality, unstable printing environments, and crusty build plates.

Solution? If you MUST use glue, use it sparingly and wash the build plate often. But it’s not necessary! By not touching the build plate with bare hands at all, by buying an enclosed printer to reduce dust, and by not using glue, you will succeed in having the best of every world.

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