Printables not upholding CC licensing

TLDR; jpvalery illegally remixed my model, attributed a different model, and Martin Horek with printables is not performing the proper investigation, refuses to take the illegal remix model down, and accused me of remixing a model to create mine. Links posted.

So I have this model, Aztec-Mayan Calendar -- The Sun Stone by Qjeezy - MakerWorld, uploaded to maker world exclusively. I spent weeks creating the model based off of a 3D scan that I performed. The actually scanning part only took an hour or so but the time spent fixing, sculpting, and tweaking details in nomad sculpt was the bulk of the work. I spent quite a bit of time on it and I’m proud of it.

So there I am looking around printables and what do ya know, I find my model posted. Aztec Sun Stone (50%) by jpvalery | Download free STL model | Printables.com It’s a 50% scaled down version of my model and it’s attributing a completely different model for the remix! On top of that, my model is licensed under a standard digital file license, so remixing is not allowed. So I did what everyone would do, I report it to have it removed. Well, that was unsuccessful. I did this 3 more times and nothing ever came of it. Not to mention that simply scaling down a model does not constitute a legitimate remix.

That’s when I decided to email prusa/printables directly. I explained the situation thoroughly and even provided links to my model, the illegal remix model, and the model they claim to have remixed. I explained that the illegal remix is not allowed under my license and that it is also attributing the wrong model, so I would like it to be removed. I received an email back from Martin Horak with printables and he tells me “the model in question does not violate any licensing agreements or our platform rules”. Okay, so all he did was look at the illegal remix upload, go to the attributed model and look at the license. Totally ignored the fact that I said the attributed model was not the model they actually used.

So I wrote back explaining that I believe he is mistaken and that the model they claim to have remixed is not the one they used and that they actually used my model. I then asked him to open all 3 models in a slicer so he can see them side by side, as I have done already, and it would become immediately obvious that my statements are true. There are many details that prove the models are different. He replied back again stating that the original model they remixed is based from scan the world and included a link to that model. Then included another link to the model the illegal remix attributed. I know which model they attributed Martin, it is not the one they uploaded sir! Here’s where they left a sour taste in my mouth, Martin then accused me of also remixing the same model to create my model! No dude, I spent a lot of time on my model to make it what it is. It is in no way, shape, or form even close to the same as the other one nor was any part of the other one used at all to create mine.

He then went on to cite publication dates and stated that my model was posted later than the scan the world model by a few days, which is true. Is he basing the fact that he thinks the illegal remix is not my model on publication dates?

I just sent the latest email back, again asking him to open all 3 models in a slicer so he can see them side by side. It really is the easiest and quickest way to see in fact that I am telling the truth.

Anyway, Martin with printables doesn’t seem to be investigating this properly and is not abiding by CC licensing. He is basing his judgement on the illegal remix upload without doing any type of actual research. I have posted my model above and here are the other 2. The first one is the illegal “remix” and the second is the model they claim to have remixed.

Illegal remix: Aztec Sun Stone (50%) by jpvalery | Download free STL model | Printables.com

Model claimed to have been remixed: Aztec Sun Stone by Scan the World Remixed by Classic 2.5 - MakerWorld

The creator, jpvalery, has already changed which model they credited at least once. It used to be a model from thingiverse and now it’s a model from makerworld. They also have a print profile on my model, which I don’t see as a problem because it’s in the correct location and provides a print profile for the a1 mini. It’s just the “remix” upload that printables refuses to remove because they can’t do the proper investigation that’s leaving a sour taste in my mouth.

Jpvalery has also uploaded the same 50% scale print profile to the model on makerworld from scan the world that I linked, but I have already had that one successfully removed.

Jpvalery, if you’re on here dude, please remove the printables listing and keep your 50% scale modification profile of my model on my model listing only. I don’t care about the points, you can keep those. This is my work that I spent a lot of time on and chose to keep exclusively on makerworld.

Thanks for coming to my rant :joy:.

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Bottom line, it indeed seems like he stole your model. I reported it as well.

I have reported ‘illegal’ remixes on MakerWorld in the past and they also mostly decline reports without good reasoning

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I appreciate the support! I usually have good luck with reporting as I do provide all of the necessary evidence.

I do believe Martin is just handling this the wrong way. Part of me believes they’re blowing me off because my model is on makerworld and not on printables, ya know the whole prusa vs. bambu thing, but that’s a stretch lol. I think Martin is just being lazy and doesn’t feel like properly investigating.

I just posted the same thing on prusa forum so hopefully an admin or something sees it and decides to look into it further.

I added a comment on the model listing.
Hope it helps draw some attention.

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It has been removed from Printables

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Well, a win for the small folks!

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Woohoo!!! Finally! After months! Thank you guys for the support!

Interesting, did you make any artistic changes or fill in missing details with your own interpretations? Or did you just clean up the geometry and make it printable?

Yes to both, I made all kind of changes and fixed a lot of geometry. It literally took about a month in nomad sculpt to get this model to where I thought it was good enough to upload. Although I am limited to what free time I have after normal responsibilities, so figure between 1-3 hours a day on average.

I was asking because if you simply scanned it and fixed the geometry it wouldn’t be eligible for copyright protection and thus the license wouldn’t apply. But if, for example, there was a chunk missing and you filled in that chunk with some character you invented that would be eligible for protection.

It’s a marvelous accomplishment, looking forward to printing it. I’m wondering if maybe printing it on an angle would give better quality than flat.

Totally agree with you there.

Thank you! I look forward to seeing your results. I did think about printing it on an angle the first time I printed it. I believe I never did because I didn’t want to cut a chunk off so there’d be sufficient bed contact.

No need to cut a chunk off, you just tilt it in the slicer and enable supports.