And now you’re beating a dead horse. Either go sell your Mini and upgrade or stop complaining and enjoy what you have now.
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Im just responding to people that spoke to me directly. Sorry you didnt feel good about it. I guess if you respond again, youre beating a dead horse. And complaining about complaining. Happy printing buddy
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@StreetSports you’re not adding anything to this thread – and most certainly not answering the OP’s question with your condescending ranting. If you want to complain about how Bambu Lab releases products, then go start your own thread.
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Just my take on this based on my new P1S, which is a very nice machine: I think theses high speed slinger style machines are suited to multicolored PLA parts. With the adhesion challenges I’m having with non PLA I can’t believe you wouldn’t have issues holding parts, when moving at those accelerations.
My opinion and sorry if someone else pointed this out above.
LOL! That is true, unfortunately probably 90% of customers don’t watch keynotes. Being in IT for the last 40 years, I can count on one hand the number of my clients who watch those types of things. What the customers saw was the 8 being available, then a few weeks later the X being available.
Nice dodge on the iPad pro though, heh.
But that’s OK. You obviously know far more than I do about how technology and marketing work. You also know far more about buyer’s remorse 
I bow to you sir.
Start at 14:00.
Oh and 1st gen 12.9 announcement date September 9, 2015
9.7 announcement date March 21, 2016.
Every gen has a large and small model that have different hardware and completely different price points. Also, the better model comes first. with a cheaper, chopped down model later. The a1 has a smaller footprint than the mini if both have an ams lol. After release events, the news is spread through media sources instantly. No need to actually watch them unless youre a nerd like me.
When I was in IT, customers asked me which devices to purchase. Gotta know tech when you deal with tech.
And again, you missed the point. That’s OK, you go boy!
@msinger
Hey, I answered the op’s question and then you imediately responded to me. Not the op. Im sorry if my answer to him somehow hurt your feelings enough to hyjack the whole thread. I answered him and then you 2 started side conversations with me. congrats on doing exactly what youre complaining about. Now go away if words hurt your feelers. Or just go back and read the whole thread. Including your original answer.
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Well, stories never change and that also takes care of itself. Advertising can help, but products have always massive more impact on customers and there future purchasing decisions - and no marketing can handle waves that hits back on that. And these waves are just getting bigger and bigger and in the end no one will be able to stop it…
The same thing happened to others when the A1 mini was released. As I said at the time, the A1 mini mainly complements people who bought a Bambulab 2-4 months before. It’s amazing that so many people are only realizing it now (thanks to the quick relase of the A1 “not small version”). Bambulab’s biggest enemy is Bambulab itself…
Reviewers need to be clear that Prusa owners are less of a problem - more and more owners of recently purchased Bambulabs are coming along. So people who paid for the printers… they need to deal with.
It’s amazing that even Uncle Jesse commented in his current K1 test that the footprint of a Bambulab P1P up to X1C is not 256 to 256. Yes, I’m looking for a new printer, but the time isn’t quite right yet…
And by the way, it`s somewhere by 240 if you want the Bambulab bad plate note on the Part as well as other restrictions by Bambulab printers only… but this I also note somewere in this forum:
And now I see that Streetsport already post the fisrt video in this post… so… it goes online without doing anything…
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The A1 “Mini” probably should have tipped us off to their plans. Doesn’t “Mini” imply a full-sized version? Well if you missed that, so did I but given 20/20 hindsight it should have been obvious.
But to those who are feeling buyers remorse – as did I with my premature purchase of the P1P just prior to the launch of the P1S. I offer this counsel and consolation. As a person who has been in Tech all my life, I always get asked that magic question “I heard that Company XYZ is about to release feature ##### for a lot less… should I wait?” My answer is always the same, if you think you can time the tech market think again.
That’s a long way of saying that we can’t beat ourselves up for missing the timing of a product or for that matter expect companies to do what’s right.
If someone doesn’t thinks so, consider the fact that I purchased the P1P for $599 and then added another $100 for upgrades like glass top and door, fan etc. which was a kluge of an add-on. Only to see a week after I did the upgrade, the price of the P1P fall $100 and the P1S go into it’s spot. Was I pissed? Yes, but I was also resigned to that would happen.
For you A1 Mini buyers. I feel the pain you’re experiencing. Complain to BL. I did and they offered me the P1S upgrade for what to them must have been a generous 33% discount. $100 vs $150. But I already spent that money on an upgrade and already had most of those parts, just not the ones I needed which were the correct fitting front bezel and rear bezel. Which purchased and install last month after it being out of stock for 4 months.
The point is, if you complain loud enough, they may make you and offer for a trade-in or some kind of coupon. Then resell your A1 Mini on eBay and use the coupon to get the A1.
There is certainly something to that - after all, you grow from your experiences so you would always act differently the second time. And how often I would have bought something differently - uncountable…
But it is true that the value experience has been massively shortened in the last 5 months. People who experienced the step up to the X1 will may accept it. People who are picking up something like this for the first time in their lives? Hard to say what I think about it and maybe I’m wrong too - I do not know.
If I imagine, someone buys his first 3D printer. E.g. an A1 Mini and before he even unpack it he regret the purchase because the manufacturer comes out of the blue with something that you would actually have liked more… he doesn’t even announce it.
and now the thing breaks after 2-3 years down and you no longer get the complex replacement parts - he was a customer until end of life. Yes Bambulabs work wonderfully out of the box - but fixing that or finding a bug by a non usual problem. As long as it runs, great. If not, things will become massively more complex… at least a hint of that is may not the stupidest idea to keep it`s own ass dry when this starts.
The experience is simply reversed - before, you unpacked, had to get it working and you became more and more happy with the Printer. Now you unpack it, it works and you will have to deal with more and more problems do of time. Of course not if you just get it and then move on to the next printer. The experience that counts now is missing and may not noted. But once more, hard to say what I think about it and maybe I’m wrong too - I do not know. But fortunately I don’t need to know the answer to that. This is what Bambulab needs to know - it’s there business and not mine…
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I went with the mini. I like the smaller footprint.
If I want to print something bigger it will be a little design challenge for me to design / redesign a piece into a puzzle
Well, I got your point of view and thats ok.
Since the only big benefit of a Bambulab (in my limeted point of view) are color changes on PETG and PLA. And there you will fight to get as many parts as possible on the plate. So even my X1C becomes a X1C mini.
I even play with the thinking to get a Ender 5 Plus which will by absolutly crazy, so just coming up with an idea like this shows desperation since this printer is so outdated - but however, it`s the only CoreXY printer how comes close to a large sized printer for ChromaPad… and the upcoming ELEGOO Giga is a bit to big for me.
I understand that people are happy about new models - but I also hope that you understand that I don’t have to look at the 500th bedslinger in the 220 x 220 format. Even by fillaments, so much is changing at the moment - by temperature and price are really the little last drop you can get with ABS (or may I`m wrong on it).
Everyone has to know for themselves whether they should buy an A1 Mini or an A1… I wouldn’t have to think long about it - the A1 Mini probably become a A1 “micro” thrue the current melting performance and printing speeds.
My other option would have been a Sovol SV06… but why I choose a Bambu lab is for ease of use. I don’t want to have a 3D Printer I need to tinker with.
Just want to print stuff I think I would need / make my life easier.
At least I hope it will be like that
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Not so much problem since Bambu Studio has a neat feature that cuts objects and you can place joints that fit automatically together. The only limitation is the thickness of walls to be joined. With this option you no longer have to prepare in CAD software anything.
I hotly recommend you to buy a BambuLab printer, especially X1Carbon with AMS (of course if you can afford it). Before Bambu,I had few other 3D printers (MakerBot 5, Z18, Ender 3 1S Pro), but once I got the X1 Carbon all they became instantly obsolate - the difference in quality, features and speed is so huge, that I had to just sell them out.
A friend of mine bought Bambu P1P, without AMS - it works well, but is way behind the X1 Carbon. The lidar of X1 and the other fancy features matter, when it comes to tune the printer. Also the enclosure is must have feature.
In short - don’t hesitate, get X1 Carbon
That’s actually the only thing that made me not buy the X1. I want a fully open printer since I only print PLA and PETG.
When people say that you can print PLA and PETG without an enclosure - it doesn’t mean that the enclosure is not needed at all. On my old printers like MakerBot Replicator2 and Ender 3 Pro I always added a cage from wooden frames and plastic film to prevent the 'elements" to interact with the printing. For example if you position your 3D printer close to window or door - the quality of the prints will strongly depend on how many people pass the door or is the window opened or closed. I learned in the hard way that the enclosure is “must have” feature for consistent and relibale printing, even if we talked about PLA only.
I’m betting, that if you get X1 Carbon, in the next few months you’ll start looking for other exotic filaments - like filled with carbon or fibres. But if you stuck with P1P, you’ll find out soon that the enclosure and the LIDAR are missing you.
LIDAR might be one of those features one doesn’t know they are missing until they have it. I’ve never had it on a printer and I cannot say the quality of my prints have suffered. But, I guess it might be a good feature to have for those people who don’t want to and/or don’t know how to tune filament.
I suspect they use the LIDAR also to measure the surface flatness - before starting the X1 printing the head moves zig/zag above the exact printing area. The first layer comes out always flawless, unrealisticly precise and smooth.