Bad or un-optimized profiles don’t bother me. I usually download the creator’s profile first at the top of the list and change it to my liking anyway. (I never send a profile I haven’t inspected to the printer). It still counts as a download and profile rating for the creator (so 2 downloads). I spend a lot of time making sure the profiles for my own uploaded models work properly on my printers and materials. But that doesn’t mean it will work for all printers and materials. I have no problem with someone else uploading profiles optimized differently, even if they are bad ones. My profile will always be the first one in the list, hopefully with a high rating. If I get a low rating, I go back and find out what the problem is and repost it. Working as intended I think.
relativizing the problem because it doesn’t affect or bother you isn’t contributing really. You don’t lose anything when those who are bothered by this get an option to moderate the profiles on their models.
Perhaps the part on uploading your own profiles, and them being over every elses profile isnt communicated clearly enough? Are you unable to upload some yourself?
By giving everyone the ability to moderate profiles, some people will remove all the profiles but their own due to greed… It’s not like just because you made the model you know what is 100% the best print profile for everyone elses printer.
Everyone’s printer configuration, filament brand, climate, room conditions etc. are different in one way or another. Should we accept 100,000 profiles just because someone downloaded the top one and it didn’t work exactly for them? It’s a stupid idea offering incentives for anyone to upload and/or rate profiles.
Are they still reading this thread or does they ignore this thread like all Sellers on Aliexpress when there are problems?
Really funny to see their reaction…
We concider… Aaand nothing.
I read a lot of this thread. I’d say that “Ciprian - Bambu_Lab_Employee” is actually a bot. No one could be this dense, but a bot could. No one is going to get help from a bot and Bambu seems utterly uninterested in any customer service regarding profiles.
There is a difference between profiles that aren’t optimal for a printer and profiles that are so broken that the result has no chance to work, no matter what printer you use.
“being over everyone elses profile” requires a profile to be there first, a lot of my models are models I imported from other platforms I’m using. Me even uploading to MakerWorld is a courtesy I do because I like their printers so much.
I have no problem with other peoples profiles, in fact, I’ve only put the models to private that received a broken profile, and i haven’t touched the ones with just sub-optimal settings.
By giving everyone the ability to moderate profiles, some people will remove all the profiles but their own due to greed…
I have no idea what you are even trying to say there - at least I’m not being paid for someone using my profiles, so blocking other people’s profiles would give me nothing to satisfy any greed - what it would give me is a tiny bit of quality control over how my work is represented on this platform because clearly bambulabs employee-bot doesn’t care about it at all.
You, as the model author has automatically the top spot on all the profiles no matter how late you post this print profile…
As to the greed part, its in the points you get for someone else downloading a print profile like you do with the model downloads, even if you get far less.
Perhaps you should actually try using this website and see how it works?
Not every creator is a bambu machine owner and they knew that well. Otherwise they would have made profile upload mandatory, but would have been left with a lot less models, and narrowing down your target group is really bad for such type of service. And since not every model creator is an owner they should at least give us the choice to manage the automatically generated profiles. The example with the Voron parts a few posts above is good enough. Furthermore it should be clearly stated when a profile has been automatically created.
Hi @lbot_11,
I’ve been trying to keep updated on the topic, but this comment may be off-topic.
Anyway, I need to get it off my chest.
When I first noticed that Voron was on the list of printers available for uploading printing profiles, I thought, what a heresy.
You can imagine my surprise when I saw the photos of the printing parts.
I still have a hard time imagining that anyone skilled and dedicated enough to decide to build a Voron, which retains one of the highest status quo within the entire community, uses a random print profile, doesn’t know the correct printing settings, or the material…
This is not a criticism to you or one that printed… but in my opinion, it is ironic. The times are a changing, and I must update myself to not be behind the times.
Before I got my X1C I built a Voron and before that modified all my printers. Somewhere in that time I also bought (and modified) an X-Carve CNC. Anyone with a CNC will say it’s just nuts to run gcode you haven’t verified personally.
Print profiles aren’t gcode, they are a set of print settings that you could still modify in Bambu Studio before slicing and sending to your printer. I use mostly ABS in my X1C and basically nobody uploads print profiles using ABS, but I guess they could still be a starting point for suggested perimeters/infill type, and support settings.
Note that Makerworld and Printables allow gcode uploads and I’ve always considered those almost useless since you can’t change anything.
I personally think that Bambu Studio project files should have a different extension than 3mf (even if they are the same format) because it’s too confusing. I did once download a 3mf file from Makerworld and SuperSlicer wouldn’t load it, I suspect because it was really a project file and not just a model file.
Print profiles aren’t gcode, they are a set of print settings that you could still modify in Bambu Studio before slicing and sending to your printer. I use mostly ABS in my X1C and basically nobody uploads print profiles using ABS, but I guess they could still be a starting point for suggested perimeters/infill type, and support settings.
Remember though, Bambu is doing a lot of this so people can just use their phone app to click a profile and it’s sliced in the “cloud” and sent to the printer. It’s one of the points they are pushing with the A1 Mini to make printing easier for new people. Great concept but opens the door to many issues. To your point, yeah, they aren’t gcode, but the way Bambu is promoting this idea, the profiles create gcode in the cloud slice that people never see before it goes to the printer. Maybe I have it wrong as I wouldn’t try it but that’s how I understand what they are wanting it to do.
I’m aware but unfortunately I’d have to argue that it’s still an improvement over Printables that has no equivalent of Print Profiles and offers gcode instead. I’d also argue that Bambu printers offer safety features like build plate identification that try to make cloud slicing for one of their printers pretty safe (as long as their cloud service isn’t recovering from an outage but that’s another story).
I do agree that print profiles should be subject to flagging for pretty immediate review and removal in the case that they are downright bad, impossible (design needs supports which aren’t set), or the design is somehow filament specific and the print profile is not appropriate.
Sure I don’t plan to use the cloud print function from the phone app, but I don’t see how they could have that feature without print profiles. My complaint is not about the presence of the print profile feature, but giving the design author a bit more say over the print profiles uploaded for their designs.
Yes, you are 100% right. This shouldn’t happen to someone building a Voron.
This should be more of an example than a real scenario. But I’ve also uploaded some other models that had completely “garbage” profiles, like 7 walls and 15% infill.
Nevertheless, this is a No-Go for me. Therefore, I won’t upload any models until this is resolved. And I believe many other users will do the same.
I think maybe documentation on how to make a great print profile is lacking. There are so many where I download them it opens up with 12 custom filaments where you only need 1.
Are you not able to make your own profiles like the website wants you to do?
Print profiles aren’t gcode, they are a set of print settings that you could still modify in Bambu Studio before slicing and sending to your printer. I use mostly ABS in my X1C and basically nobody uploads print profiles using ABS, but I guess they could still be a starting point for suggested perimeters/infill type, and support settings.
Remember though, Bambu is doing a lot of this so people can just use their phone app to click a profile and it’s sliced in the “cloud” and sent to the printer. It’s one of the points they are pushing with the A1 Mini to make printing easier for new people. Great concept but opens the door to many issues. To your point, yeah, they aren’t gcode, but the way Bambu is promoting this idea, the profiles create gcode in the cloud slice that people never see before it goes to the printer. Maybe I have it wrong as I wouldn’t try it but that’s how I understand what they are wanting it to do.
I don’t think you’re wrong and the breakneck speed at which Bambu is putting MakerWorld out there makes one wonder how much testing was done.
I can easily some disgruntled or just plain mean spirited individual deciding that they are going to “show them” …whoever them is… and upload something malicious that will cause all sorts of havoc. People don’t need a reason to be jerks, for some it just comes natural unfortunately.
I had a support ticket open on this, and sometime last week it started showing a message that my issue would be resolved, and I could add messages if something were still up - looking at my models, not one had the offending profiles removed.
As a result of that deceipt I asked my ticket to be escalated to a manager - the response I got was random fluff, telling me to report every single profile with a detailed explanation on why its defective so they could “review it”
having to wait for them to review it, and them make the decision on this is not acceptable, I don’t want my models with broken profiles for the first weeks after upload, so in conclusion, I’ve pulled all my models from this platform, and will no longer upload them here.
Seems they don’t get that the value of their platform is coming from the creators’ uploading.
Hi ppetermann, you can upload your own (and corrected settings) print profiles for your own models. When you are the owner of the model you are uploading a print profile to then all of the profiles you upload will appear above the other ones no matter how many other profiles have been uploaded before. You can simply fix the issue with wrongly set up profiles by uploading your own correct profiles, and naming said print profile something along the lines of “Voron spec”.
I don’t really understand what is your issue, you can make your own profiles and they are ALWAYS above other people profiles if you do so on your own model.
If you think a profile someone made is bad, simply make one yourself and get extra points for doing so. Bad profiles will eventually get bad rating and no one will use them, and if you have an option to download raw files then people will most certainly do that.
I hope you change your mind and do comeback to the platform and understand that you also benefit from people making profiles for your models, of course as long as those are good profiles, but then again most people will use creators profile if it is aviable to them. Cheers.
That does Not really Help . Sorry