The Gold Rush is over - Point system is dead

Ok, so not pay, but it is an expectation of obtaining points which is agreed upon when we signed up and agreed to the guidelines. No where does it say we upload this and do it purely for love of bambu and wont be part of the points program, etc.

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And yes, we agree that they can change the program at any time. But we can also remove our models at any time as well.

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Yes, You’re free to do whatever you want with your models.

Unless you won a contest…

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Exactly,100% agree. That’s why it makes no sense why you’re complaining about MakerWorld points rather than uploading your models elsewhere. Upload your models to Thangs, you’re already have an account. Set up a membership, charge as little as $2 and get paid actual money instead of internet points.

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That’s the plan. But as I originally stated, I’ll give it until the eom.

Figured I would just drop this link here for reference.

https://makerworld.com/en/user-agreement

Some interesting points that I copy-pasted from the terms. (I am not a lawyer)

By uploading and publishing the User Content to using the Service, the User grants to MakerWorld a worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive license to the User Content with the ability to sub-license for, for example and without limitation, the reproduction and distribution of the User Content, as well as displaying the User Content to the public worldwide and for the duration of the proprietary rights to the User Content.

If you upload and publish user content through the Services that have complied with all relevant obligations and not be in breach or suspected breach of the program terms (if any), these Terms of use, or any other applicable policies (such as the Community Guidelines), you may be eligible to receive rewards provided by MakerWorld.

You have no property rights in points, and points can only be used as described here. Points have no cash, monetary, or other value, and cannot be redeemed in whole or in part for cash. Your points balance or any part of it is not transferable, cannot be divided as part of a settlement, legal proceeding or death, and cannot be combined with points of any other member in the program. Points may not be brokered, bartered, attached, pledged, gifted, or sold.

If you have any scruples with the terms, it’s Makerworld you need to talk to.

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bullsheet

This work is licensed under a Standard Digital File License.
You shall not share, sub-license, sell, rent, host, transfer, or distribute in any way the digital or 3D printed versions of this object, nor any other derivative work of this object in its digital or physical format (including - but not limited to - remixes of this object, and hosting on other digital platforms). The objects may not be used without permission in any way whatsoever in which you charge money, or collect fees.

In the U.K. at least, if used as you assert they might this would be deemed an unenforceable term.

The designer sets their license type during the upload process from the question BL (MW) asks the uploader. There is no option during that process to defer any ‘rights of ownership’ other than granted in the type of license selected.

The term described in the user agreement would be seen here as one for generic content like photos, ratings, comments, and such from users who have not defined a license for their works.

If BL wished to use models uploaded to the MW system for publicity that would likely be allowed no matter which license the designer chose

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I just copy-pasted from the terms. I’m not a lawyer.

If you have any scruples with the terms, it’s Makerworld you need to talk to.

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I knew you had ‘copy and pasted’, I also assumed these were not your views.

IANAL either, but, my professional career meant I was involved in this stuff a lot, in the U.K. only.

I figured a bit of context was a useful addition and it was not meant to take anything away or usurp you.

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I am pretty sure you are wrong about that. By agreeing to MakerWorlds terms and submitting the model to MakerWorld, you are making an exception to the license and giving them permission to use it according to their terms.

And I also am pretty confident that they will continue to have a right to the models even after you remove them and delete your account.

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I think we lose control over our IP once it’s loaded onto the Internet no matter where sadly. Going fully lawyered up is way beyond pretty much all of us and our local MP isn’t taking it to parliament to battle for you either. IMHO we upload here for the accolades and the drip feed rewards, some can build off this network but you won’t find many success stories.

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Having just re-read the entire thing again, I have embarrassingly come to the following conclusion.

I was right.

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I am as confident in your wrongness as you are in your rightness. :wink:

I doubt it, I have an abundance of confidence born out of decades of never being wrong.

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Well said. The only reason I saw this post is because I was mailed an overview of discussions by maker world. The only reason I am actually responding is because it is the first post in a long time that makes sense. I don waste my days reading about the injustices"suffered by malcontents. This is an awesome service that allows me to easily and securely print and store my designs and it is reliable and free. I also don’t post stuff if I’m not prepared for people to use it.

As long as it doesn’t take anything away from me, I am more than grateful for it points or no points.

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As a low level designer I’m seeing consistent growth and the boosts have kept me close to what I was rewarded for pre boost. It’s definitely not as good but possibly getting double boosts to the people actually printing stuff will reward good models. Only time will tell on that.

I’d love to share data between designers if that’s something is possible. To actually dig in the numbers and see what’s happening.

I like data!

The boost have been keeping a steady flow; more so than I thought. I was kind of figuring it’d be more stop and go, and more of a trickle. Was imagining we would like see a number of boost at the start of the week, when the counter gets reset.

The growth overall is an interesting thing to consider. I check out the top list for designers, and everyone’s numbers steadily go up. I wonder how many new users Makerworld adds a day. Like I wonder how much of it is just existing users continuing to like things, or new users adding to the overall numbers.

I’ve been thinking about platform growth and numbers a bit. Like how many Individuals with printers are there, I wonder. How many people have multiple printers. How many engage Makerworld, vs don’t. I wonder how the user numbers look compared to printables. I mean, printables obviously has a metric ton more, but I wonder how like Bambu’s current market share is and how that reflects on Makerworld and it’s growth.

It’d be interesting to see data on the designers as a group. Like I wonder how many active designers there are, and how things get distributed along the curve from the noobs to the grizzled veterans.

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