ok I remembered a little low.
30-32 is still not very hard in comparison.
Still considerably harder than brass. Brass is too soft to be measured on the HRC scale.
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It seems to be very hard to get this mind twist out of the heads of a lot of people.
Quoting someone that states that this was promised, doesnât make it the truth.
I am really interested in where we can find this promise?
All I know is that Stephan from CNC-Kitchen asked the CEO of Bambu about this, and the answer was that they had that on their wishlist since the beginning, and that they were actively working on it, but there was NO promise on a date or a period in which they would launch that.
Check the video for yourself
Unless some of you have different info.
I am still hoping Bambu will release something in the near future, but I see no reason to say they didnât kept their promise on dual nozzle support.
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It probably even makes sense, if I read the Prusa website, to achieve what they call CHT - Core Heating Technology
âThe internal design includes a split core that divides the filament into three streams within the nozzle. As a result, the surface area exposed to heat exponentially increases, leading to faster heating and a more consistent temperature across the entire filament width. Enhanced heating processes allow higher printing speeds while maintaining output consistency and quality.â
As far as I know - please correct me if Iâm wrong - you have to decide whether you want âhardened + CHRâ - or âDiamondâ as Prusa calls them, the really hard nozzles, but without CHR.
So the question is, which is better? And Iâd say: It dependsâŚ
âŚbut as another user pointed out here, âa lieâ: I definitely donât see that⌠not even with a lot of good will and imagination
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From Bambu itself, so you might want to reconsider your opinion: The FAQ that was published shortly before the release. Please note: Before sale started:
However, that never happened; on the contrary, Bambu later said:
âIn an interview with Stefan from CNC-Kichten, Bambuâs CEO ruled out the possibility that it would happen. He cited the slicer and the highly complex calculations as the reason.â
To do that, youâd have to contact Bambu, who have been claiming for a year that theyâll add this via a firmware update, but at the same time, their CEO says that will not happen.
Next piece of supporting evidence: This topic has been open for almost a almost a years and has never been closed by the official developers: Developers usually post in these threads, but there hasnât been a response for months.
Like I said, I donât want to change your mind, but Iâd like you to reconsider your own opinion. The FAQ still states that they will provide this by firmware later, even though their CEO disagrees.
I am still missing the âwhenâ in all of the statements.
Do you mean that Bambu hasnât set a specific release date? So, you donât find it problematic that the promised features havenât been released after almost a year? Is that what you want to discuss?
Because someone who bought the printer in the hope that this feature would be added later still canât use it after almost a year.
It reminds me of when Sony sold and advertised TVs with a hard drive recording feature, claiming it would be available soon via a firmware update â yet even after years, it never materialised. Thatâs not really a basis for discussion, or?
I donât really understand why the date is relevant either. You can look at it quite pragmatically:
Itâs in the FAQ, it was promised, and yet it still hasnât been delivered after almost a year. End of story, right?
You started this discussion by assuming that people were making it up, but Iâve proven that wrong, so we can now discuss it on that basis.
However, what is not up for debate is that Bambu promised this and created the problem themselves. To this day, they have not published a recent statement explaining the current status.
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I agree that the FAQ is telling us that a firmware update can be expected in the future and that this is still not the case.
However, I doubt that the firmware requires an update as the printer fully supports the dual size nozzles. I can have 2 different nozzle sizes loaded and print with either one. Only just not simultaneously in one job.
I guess when I hack some gcode together I can already print dual size on the H2D.
So maybe that firmware update has already been released.
The real thing we are waiting for is the proper slicer support. There are some experimental features out there in Prusa and Orca Slicer, but none are fully supporting it and requires a lot of tweaking.
So if we can print 2 objects with a different nozzle size, is that promise then fulfilled?
Or do we then expect more? Also the Creality promise is not going further than a different size for infill and walls.
I think most companies (Bambu included) are waiting to see what the competition does. Prusa has itâs experimental feature already for a very long time but still no formal release.
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Iâm sure that, regardless of what the device is called, Bambu will release this feature at some point.
While Prusa customers have been able to test it for a year, as you already said, experimental - and competitors have at least announced it, unfortunately we havenât heard anything from Bambu.
Many printer companies focus too much on offering a wide range of colours in one print, but neglect both print quality and speed. However, many small companies and hobbyists donât want multiple colours; they want to be able to print infill with larger nozzles to increase print speed and strength - while still being able to reproduce fine details with a 0.2 nozzle.
Itâs crazy that we have to print detailed parts entirely with a 0.2 mm nozzle when the infill could be printed with a 0.6 mm nozzle.
Many companies neglect customers who donât need multicolour printing, but who instead require reliable time optimisation for printing. The first company to offer a single print run with nozzles ranging from 0.2 to 0.6 mm will capture this entire customer base.
For many people, multicolor printing is still just a gimmick and not necessary. Maybe two colors at most for labeling. But the top priority - often even at some print farms - is speed and quality.
In my opinion, which is open to debate and may differ from othersâ
I think this whole hobby will only remain sustainable if companies continue to prioritise speed and quality. Eventually, casual customers will lose interest in printing the hundredth colourful flexi dragon, meaning theyâll only buy the printing equipment once.
However, someone who uses this for a hobby or as a profession tends to buy printer equipment repeatedly, but they usually donât care about too many colors.
Give me one example. In fact, it doesnât have to be Bambu Lab. I would add others into that question: Has any other printer makers, Bambu Lab included, ever asked their paying customers not to review their products?
Prusa? Prusa hasnât even released INDX. What we have in the field is Bondtech version. What are you even judging here.
Who are you? You are responding to a message that is not even directed to you. Lmao.
Well⌠it was a deception from Bondtech and they screwed up. There are no way around it. The question is - are they going to go through and own it completely or pull a stunt, like some other companies.
My comment referred solely to what is currently stated on Prusaâs website and had no connection to the Bondtech topic; it was a response to the user who also quoted the website. Just so you know, this is the context. 
Even though the word âlieâ was quickly edited out? At least itâs gone by now.
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You do understand what NDA is, right? Iâm not going to say, nor disclose anything what cannot be mentioned publicly, except the typical and common knowledge: Companies do send out pre-released machines for a private test to some users and those machines come with ND clause. With BL you can find it with early release of X1 machines.
Oh, I see. I was confused in all those messages going around. Thanks
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Baumu definitely uses NDA as a tool to control reviews - confirming your comment.
X1:
https://wenjuan.feishu.cn/m/cfm?t=svGdxA5U45Qi-qdad
Most recently, it was the H2C that was subject to an NDA:
Thereâs even a separate section in the forum that most people donât have access to:
https://forum.bambulab.com/c/bambu-lab-beta-program
Nothing unusual for a company⌠bambu is no exception.
The downside to the whole concept is that it has an extreme impact on reviewers and influencers. Anyone who expresses negative criticism will not receive a device next time, meaning they will be unable to produce a video in a timely manner and will suffer significant revenue losses.
Not to mention that there are hefty fines for anyone who violates an NDA.
NDAs may have once been a useful tool, but today theyâre a plague used to control influencers mind. Anyone who doesnât play along wonât receive a product for review. While the company has the right to do this, it is morally questionable. But unfortunately, you could pretty much lump every company into that categoryâŚ
Whatâs even worse, is that in almost all modern NDAs there are clauses that even prohibits to disclose the existence of signed NDA between 2 or more parties. For example person X signed a Bilateral CDA with ⌠I dunno, Prusa or Bambu Lab - that person X cannot even say anywhere that he has signed an NDA with that company. Source? Iâve been working with many companies based on my professional work, almost 100% of CDAs Iâve signed had clause like that, some of those are quite famous companies in FDM industry.