It depends on your country and local laws, you should research this thoroughly and ideally consult a lawyer.
If you choose not to do that, the safest bet is not to sell anything using the IP of another.
More about curiousity than anthing else. I generally design all my own stuff. I was always just curious about how they get away with that.
I have yet to design anything for the 3d Printer, but I’ve done several designs for my laser cutter and the amount of work a lot of this stuff takes is pretty high, I agree with OP.
The OP asked a question rather than making a point that could be agreed with.
The question amounts to “can models from MakerWorld be sold for profit”.
The answer is “yes, if and only if the designer has clearly stated that commercial use of their work is allowed and all other terms are adhered to”.
The consequences of not following the license is court, fines and worse deletion the country. Criminal records are rarely a good thing.
Those talking about morality are saying “yes, steal the work of others and when you get caught your regret taking the advice of someone talking about morality when laws were far more strict about your future freedoms and burdens”. They will also not share your punishment.
Hi, this topic looks interesting, and I am curious to learn more about!
(Especially) as a Muslim individual from a region that does not have specific legislation that directly addresses Creative Commons licenses nor any tailored laws to Creative Commons, however/whereas, I still see it Haram-forbidden and illegal, and dont use it for commercial purposes!
I am literally from (Kurdistan Region) in Iraq, where people here are almost completely unaware about CC licenses excluding copyright, and in fact very very few people knows 3d printing and printers, and most of those who knows it-up to 99% of them do not own any 3d printer-no legal action is taken at all, if they wanted to go against CC licenses regulation, (simply they dont KNOW & if they know they dont CARE) since CC licenses are not explicitly regulated in Iraq.
Despite all of that, I am still eager to know if it would be possible for someone from a 3rd world country to (have the right to) use online objects in their physical format for commercial purposes by any chance or case?
No
Neither religion nor country makes a crime legal.
Not all CC licenses disallow commercial use, only the ones with “NC” in them.
For NC models you can always ask the creator for permission and they can choose to give you rights to use the model commercially. If you were just selling them locally in person and not online, at least some, perhaps even many, creators would not care and would grant you permission if you ask.
so you would pay 1000$ or more just to meaby try and sue a guy ? what if he is from another country ? how much would that cost to sue them ? I get your point dont get me wrong… but i dont think the price it would cost would be worth it
Ofc, Islam does not let you to take someone’s right or anything that does not belong to you, this is called “Haram” if you take it!
Well, unless the owner gives you permission for it!
You should introduce yourself here Pablo I’m sure people would be interested in learning about you and your 3d printing experiences in Kurdistan.
I totally agree! Before printing their models, maybe they could add the creators’ names on their under models. What do you think?
Yeah, you sure seem like a morally upstanding person…
That is the most asinine take I have read today.
I found a few of my 3D models selling on Temu and Etsy that had a non-commercial licences attached to it.
One of the sellers from Germany is now threatening to sue me for having taken down their model. Apparently its costing them 40-50 EUR a day.
But they were stupid enough to send me screenshots of them editting my design in Fusion 360… clearly showing their Fusion 360 account name and their fusion showing ‘‘PERSONAL USE ONLY - Not for commercial use.’’
Semi-off-topic :-
What are the ethics of people uploading models with stolen IP tagging their uploads as not for commercial use but essentially in breach as they get makerworld points that can be converted into cash value?
Back on topic :-
Genuine designers are (should be) willing to negotiate a commercial licence for individual models without forcing people to a monthly suscription model via Patreon or similar.
Because its not commercial use, you’re not selling it, this is essentially a tip based system so the points are basically considered donations, and it would be down to the IP holders to request the removal, the cash conversion rate is actually worse than just getting gift cards anyway in terms of raw point value
I was going to ask in what county you live in where tips are considered donations, but then…
Recently had one of my models turn up for sale on Etsy and eBay, it’s an “Exclusive” model, so wasn’t supposed to be available for commercial endeavours.
Messaged the Etsy guy, they just ignored me, used Etsy’s reporting portal, it got rejected because I picked the “wrong reason”, I don’t know why they make it more difficult than it needs to be, someone downloaded the personal use file, sold versions of it online and even used my photos, so the seller and Etsy get to both profit and I need to fill in more paperwork? 
- perfect.
First eBay guy apologised and removed the listing (also used my pictures, but used the background removal tool on eBay) second one I’ve only just messaged.
I guess I should be flattered? Noticed the Etsy item was in “20+” baskets, so maybe I should start selling them 
Posted about this on Reddit for advice, but because my design (made from scratch in Fusion, for a different purpose than being decorative) is based on something from the Nintendo world (because it’s an accessory for the Switch, which was kind of the whole point), got shot down because I’d “stolen the design”.
Also got told similar to one of the posts above, if I don’t want to sell it, why should I care if someone else does?
Funny old world at times.
Being exclusive doesn’t prohibit a model from being sold, but it requires you the designer to give permission.
You would do this by offering a commercial license.
It is clear you didn’t and as such these two were sold without your permission, a crime.
Bambu Lab has a commercial terms subscription service which works for modes both in and out of their exclusive program.
I just wanted to clear up that being in exclusive itself doesn’t prohibit it, a lack of commercial terms does.
It just got easier as they changed their terms to only allow their members the right to sell their own creations. Hopefully, this extends to legitimate commercial terms licenses they can prove.
You own the rights and get to choose how those rights are used. I have spoken a lot about commercial terms, you haven’t offered them, that is your right and prerogative.
Theft cannot be legitimate solely because you only allow individuals to print for themselves.
Whoever wrote that has the intelligence of a current or future defendant.
Thanks for the reply Malc,
Understood, sadly I’m at 144 followers, so a bit short of hitting the licensing programme target at the moment, or I’d likely do that, as selling via Etsy isn’t something I really want to do, I’ve tested this with some more niche offerings in the past and whilst mainly OK, you have to deal with some “interesting” people and to be honest, I’d rather use my printer for test prints of new things, or items I want, rather than producing lots of stuff for others.
I replied to Etsy stating about their new policy on 3D printed items, and asking what the best way of reporting these things are, will see if I get anything back. It feels like they are more interested in paperwork than action.
Agree on the bottom point too, I ended up deleting the post as you can’t win trying to have a conversation with people like that, they either double down or just start replying with laughter emojis etc… no one wins in a race to the bottom.
Patreon doesn’t have this entrance limit.
I use them, I had them before MW ever had their own.