Many people that have simple models seem frustrated, but at the end of the day it’s Bambu’s money and they can decide what to do. I think people kind of take the whole boost system for granted, what other model site do you know of where you can make thousands off of one model? It doesn’t make sense for Bambu to give 2,000 dollars because somebody spend 15 minutes designing a dummy13 accessory in tinkercad. This new system although it may seem harsh, will ultimately cause users to upload higher quality and more unique models.
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No, there are certainly exceptions to this. And the 100% ChatGPT post isn’t helping your argument.
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Does this mean they are finally going to moderate the constant boost for boost swapping going on in the community section between the 12 year olds?
Does this also mean they are going to put restrictions on major accounts who tell their followers off site to spin up new accounts so they can boost a new model into triple digits in mere hours?
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Yeah while i understand why they are doing it - we see so many begging and boost for boost things around that it makes sense that makerworld wants to put up roadblocks for this kind of behavior, that actually is something I’d say we all agree on.
The problem here is on the definition of what is a complex model - or whatever term they chose - the examples they post certainly are pretty cool and I like to look at them, but I would never print one as i wouldn’t have a use for or where to put it, so it all comes down on how the “algorithm” will interpret it, I suspect it will be something quite basic based on if/then statements, and not really something that analysis geometry, photo quality and quality of comments / community posts.
This means that it will probably be something around print time, number of colours, and other basic easy to get info from the profiles, which means that it will be very biased and ultimately easy to manipulate, which will in fact benefit the bad actors and harm everyone that doesn’t designs engines or cern replicas - which again, I find super cool and respect the skills involved, but it’s not something I’m interested in printing, and I only boost something that I print, so not sure what will happen
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As usual I feel like we’re all wasting our time typing here as in the past they really don’t seem to change their mind… but I can’t help myself.
@MakerWorld When people are willing to take their own time scouring the site and reporting accounts that are cheating, I mean obviously cheating, why not immediately delete those accounts? If you see an account and the profile pic is an 8 year old, and the screen name is “Iluvroblox” and the bio says, “I’m 9 years old, give me free printer! I eat boosts!”… and the whole account is the free shapes from Tinkercad, or it’s all stolen models, and someone reports it… why not delete it? If NONE of the models have a picture I’ll tell you a secret, THEY DON’T HAVE A PRINTER. If someone has 50 models and not…one… picture, that’s a red flag. Their plan is to get a free A1 or A1 mini and even then I bet they aren’t going to buy filament from Bambu. Basically you’re throwing money at a kid who isn’t even old enough to join by your own guidelines and will never spend one penny with Bambu.
You’d rather change the way your whole site works instead of just cleaning it up? Right now you’re perfectly fine with anyone uploading “public domain” models and even using the creators pictures. How many people do you need on the site having the “benchy”, how about a “fidget morph worm” or all the other stolen fidgets.
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I wouldn’t count on it.
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What do you think of the new boost token redistribution system?
I think there are bigger holes in the dam that need patching.
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I think it’s starting to get a bit confusing. A few months ago, it seemed like we were only supposed to boost listings that we had actually printed; otherwise, the system might flag it as a “boost exchange fraud.” That made sense to me because some people were abusing the system.
Sometimes, I have boosted models that I found inspiring due to their design or complexity, even if I hadn’t printed them. But I kept that to a very low percentage of my total boosts to avoid triggering a false positive.
The new change seems to suggest the opposite. It almost feels like we’re being encouraged to focus on boosting complex models, regardless of what we print.
Or the examples in the blog post are just over the top. I mean they’re fantastic models and I actually gave boosts to the wind tunnel model without printing it, but who has the space to fill the home with decorative models or a almost 2m science model? I guess many of us print more the functional models / problem solvers that help us in day to day life.
then not chatgpt but deep, use it because I’m not good with English, are you okay with Google translator? I wanted to express my thoughts or it is not possible to translate with AI I do not believe that AI wrote rich and poor or discrimination, I would just like to understand why it is not useful, you are against AI translation. I think we need to talk about the other topics as Bambulab’s attitude in discriminating against creators
To me it sounds more like you gave it a prompt and it gave you a full post. There are a few a points there that don’t really make sense. E.g. nobody is saying making a statue in Blender is easy.
Even if I don’t disagree with you, a counter-argument. I’m talking about users who make an effort, and it doesn’t matter if it’s a simple or complex model:
Building a model is working time. There is nothing to discuss. In fact, it is unpaid working time. And optimising it so that everyone can print it. It is legitimate that if you give your 3D models to a company for free, you get something in return. The concept works both ways:
If the creators don’t get at least a little compensation, they will leave the site. Then we end up with what other 3D model sites already have: You have to pay for it. If we start letting bambu decide who gets paid and who doesn’t, instead of the users, it can backfire very quickly. Legitimate, but also explosive.
You always have to keep that in mind: Without the many free hours of designers and creators who have put in the unpaid groundwork, makerworld would be nothing. It would not exist at all. If someone were to calculate what Bambu would have to pay in working hours, they would have to pay millions of dollars.
But so far it has worked because at the end of the day everyone is happy. But just to be clear: Bambu gives people money, that’s true, but when you calculate what people spend on working hours, it’s way out of proportion, and yet people are happy to do it, so far. Normally no company can get 3D models so cheaply to dominate the market.
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Hey Bambu labs, just cut out the middle man already and remove the boosts from us, and while you’re at it, kill likes and comments as well?
That way you can 100% control what content you get on your side and we will all just slowly go back to others’ sites again, where the models we make is appreciated.
What is ambitious to you?
Is this design ambitious enough to get boosts, or should I try again?
How do you make a mount for a wifi cam that needs a replacement mount ambitious?
I am starting to get curious about who hit their head af the office.
First, the lockdown of printers, to only use your slicers, and now it’s a strict control over what we should do with the boosts we get if we want to keep getting more.
I get why people are scared of what you will do next, this is just madness.
Not to mention, Bambulab still doesn’t care if you don’t follow the rules if you have a high number of downloads. For the X number of times, I have found a user who mostly uses rendered images and has tens of thousands of prints and downloads, but Bambu doesn’t care. Meanwhile, I had one model with 12 downloads, and I get hit with point deductions and told to color inside the lines!
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Yea they’ve absolutely created an economy here where creators are paid almost nothing to spend hours of time hoping they’ll get maybe rewarded . But it’s a system that gets them a lot of results for cheap … if they want to butcher that golden goose and alienate their ultra cheap labor … I’d say that’s a bad business move.
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Nope, it’s allowed to have renders as the model photos, you just have to have images of an actual print for the print profile photos. If you look at all of these people with thousands of downloads, the print profile has real photos. So basically you broke the rules and they didn’t
Um, where did I specify that they use rendered images for model images only? I don’t think I did…
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Give me one example of a person with thousands of downloads and no real photos on the print profiles.
Sure, just after you tell me where I specified if it was on model or print profiles 
If thats to much to ask, just go look at MW. there is a limited amount of users with that amount of downloades
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You didn’t specify either, I will admit that I incorrectly assumed that.
This is the exclusive ■■■■ all over.
You get to decide with little or no input on what makes a model worthy of posting on their site. The reality is it doesn’t matter, traffic does.
@MakerWorld you are consistently dropping dookie bombs on those that are trying to enjoy the community and helping those that are gaming the system. So instead of renders of small models they’ll render a big ole pile of ■■■■, upload with no profile and then do their thing all over again.
It’s your playground, and clearly you want us all to take our toys and go home. I still think you should take a large object that takes hours to print and shove it in a small painful place.
I’ve all but stopped coming here, stopped talking to people I used to chat with everyday. You’ve taken the fun out of it, nearly all posts now are complaints about the dumb stuff you guys are doing. We’re watching in real time how to destroy goodwill and a great product. Bambu is just another company. That’s it. The printer isn’t special, the company isn’t special, Maker World isn’t special. When you steamroll your customers over and over it shows that clearly.
AND YOU DON’T CARE AT ALL.
Who has the time to download and print spools of filament for one project all the time? I print maybe one every month or two and they don’t come from here. Hell, with few exceptions, you can’t even be sure the person who posted ANYTHING is the person who created it. I spend my boosts on models that I find useful or creative, regardless of the size or complexity.
You don’t want to drop money on small models? Cool, peace and all that. You’ve already changed the point payout for simple downloads, just take them away already. You’ve made it clear what models you want on your site. You’re doing all you can to make people leave that don’t create those models. Probably wake up one day and find my “dinky” models removed.
Anycubic already did this btw. They decided to eliminate points and visibility for anything they deem too simple. You can’t even find them if you search for them. Is that what’s next here?
Thanks @BambuLab and @MakerWorld. Printing used to be fun.
I’ll need another printer, eventually. Won’t be a Bambu. Sourcing filament now, I’ll even pay more. Parts will come from AliExpress, or I’ll just let it run until it breaks for good. Instead of spending $1000+ on one of your printers I’ll pay $300 for one from a different ■■■■ company.
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LOL, same - before this announcement I just posted a motorized fan with lots of little parts, a detailed set of pictures and assembly guide.
BUT
I have some concerns. I used to post on Thingiverse, but that platform became stale and functionality across the site was broken. I didn’t have the incentive to post anywhere else because there was little in it for me (does that sound selfish?) due to the time it takes to prove a model prints well, refine it, etc… when I learned about the system here I felt - well - with A1 in toe I could put more time into refining stuff I like/want, and if it is useful to someone else there is a bonus in it for me - and hopefully the reinforcement cycle would help motivate me to keep sharing models.
I’m not really complaining and it is what it is - Bambu doesn’t owe us anything nor do we owe them our models. If their platforms incentives the wrong “kind of models”, then its ecosystem will dry up because people will move onto other platforms.
My general approach is - and always has been with Thingiverse - if I think one of the things I create will be enjoyed by others, I’ll post it somewhere. The trouble happens when the cost and time to develop/test/print those models exceeds the benefit of the platform…
I’m sort of rambling here - but my point is pretty simple and it echoes what others have said. If the system ends up demoting “what people want”, you will see less of that stuff here, and ergo, the platform will become less interesting for people looking to print something, which will feed into less useful models being created.