You can also use the Filament name drop-down to select a Bambu Filament Setting or a custom one that you’ve created. When you open the Filament Settings dialog box, the name of the filament that you are editing is shown at the top. That field is not editable, but to the right if it is a floppy icon that lets you save your settings, which brings up a Save Preset dialog. You can change the name of your custom settings here, e.g. DO3D Silk Filament. This was not obvious to me at first.
Hi RK, I agree, and I’m an old guy too, if printer hours is age… I had over 13,000 hours on my MK3 when I got my P1S, and I just sold the Prusa because I hadn’t used it since I got the Bambu. The feature on the Bambu that hooked me was the filament handling. I don’t do much multi-color printing, but the ability to select a filament from my desk, and press print, means that I only have to touch the printer once every job, i.e., clean the bed for the next job. With the Prusa, jobs were always 2 touch; load the filament before the job and clean the bed after. I just bought another AMS so I could have more filaments available.
[quote=“scotte, post:12, topic:65122”] There is no harm in providing 3MF files for those that want them, as long as the STLs are provided as well [/quote].
I did that too, despite the 3MF file. But since I use modifiers and negative parts in about 50% of the cases, these are then missing in the STLs. If you then download them, you have to add modifiers etc. yourself. At least you will then be missing something from the model, it is not as the model was presented. I also use modifiers to adjust speeds. Depending on the filament, you may end up with a poorer model because details are not printed nicely or are more unstable (e.g. PETG). Or overhangs do not succeed without a support structure (which leaves unsightly spots on the model), but this is not a problem if the speed is adjusted using a modifier.
Models with a modifier for a different filament (type / colour) cannot be printed as they should be without 3MF. So you can print the same part with two filaments, one filament for the outside and one filament for the inside and the part will be more stable because the modifier adds additional walls to the model (which are not present in the STL).
Und es gibt sicher noch mehr dieser Möglichkeiten über 3MF…
It is then not surprising when poor ratings of the models appear, which are inexplicable for the designer.
I thought that I would weigh in on the subject. The 3MF file format is superior to the STL or STEP format. It is a bit like comparing a .doc file to a .txt file. The 3MF format has a richer set of data contained within. Like color. I design in full color, and in the 3D printer format, the settings need to be made deep in the model in order to control which filament goes where in the final print. All these settings, and the multitude of separate bodies and which filaments go to which bodies can be easily managed within the 3MF format. A management that would be all but impossible using the STL format.
In industrial and professional software, 3MF has become the standard because of the added imbedded information that the 3MF format provides, as it provides for designer information to the producer, in addition to just raw mesh data. The thing is, if one really thinks that they need an STL or STEP file, one can be extracted from a 3MF file, just like a .txt file can be extracted from a .doc file, but not the other way around.
Furthermore I should add, that on some of my designs, for instance, certain dimensions are selected to coincide with certain layers. I am aware that there are some users who think that they can get a better quality print by changing the settings, say a different layer height or wall thicknesses. Yet on some models, such alterations throw the entire model out of whack.
The Bambu Studio generated 3MF files contain all the information one needs to print a particular model on a standard Bambu printer, providing the designer has provided adequate information. In that spirit, I think that it is a good idea to design to the standard Bambu settings, the settings everyone has ready access to. That is to design models that anyone can download and print, regardless of their skill level.
I’m pretty sure bambu and the x1 plus team have worked together to limit what data bambu gets back from end user logs, etc. The X1 plus team went through the logs and said they didn’t see any nefarious activity with data collection in the logs. They did say it logged a lot of useless information and that caused the work to be done to remove all the “fluff” so to speak.
I think 3mf files are pointless. I am fairly new to this hobby. But I find setting up an stl file in a slicer super quick and easy. Plus I know exactly what outcome I want from the print. If it be quality, strength, aesthetics, etc… I know exactly what to do to get it. If I download a 3mf file I end up having to modify a bunch of stuff anyways to get it the way I want. So I would rather just start fresh with my default settings… So yeah I would rather just have the stl files. Luckily most people still upload those as well, can also export from 3mf but that is just another step and extra hassle. I always upload the stl and even try to upload step files on mine if it was designed in Solidworks. The more options the better.
I definitely prefer the .stl/.obj files over .3mf project files. I don’t like loading a model and having all of my settings are messed up.
I don’t mind them being there, but I’m not sure why they have a button for “Raw Model Files” that isn’t actually the raw model file. Just have the .stl/.obj in there and keep the other selection if you want tailored settings.
I’d agree for industrial applications - but for the average hobby user, it is pretty tedious to work with if it’s the only one available. Multi-color printing is still wasteful in it’s current form and I would guess that most are using the feature for small parts of their models. Most people also have different filaments that aren’t picked up in the .3mf project files, so they would have to tweak those anyways.
Definitely useful for those industrial applications, though I feel like people using 3d printing in those spaces aren’t downloading and printing random models from Makerworld. They have proprietary models and are very specific. Correct me if I’m wrong on this though.
How so? For most people it has everything laid out. They don’t need to think about the orientation on the plate, the number of parts, etc. On other platforms, I’d get messages often enough about issues related to setting the model up for print. That has been a non-issue on makerworld.
People keep commenting about how they don’t like the settings other use, but it’s trivial to just change the preset to one’s preferred settings. Even setting filaments and stuff. Like I’d have to set all of this stuff up anyway, why not save myself the trouble by at least having the models laid out for me. I can’t express enough how useful this is, especially on more complex models with a lot of parts.
When you print models via the app, it doesn’t even matter what the filament selection in the 3mf file is, because it’ll let you remap it as you wish. I’ve done this several times, going from PLA to ABS, PLA to PETG, and PETG to PLA. When on the computer, I just select the filament I want based on what’s in my AMS, it’s basically the same thing. I don’t get these filament arguments at all.
The print profiles shine the best when printing from the app, and there are a lot of people that print from the app. You say “useful for those industrial applications”, but the people that are benefiting the most are the consumer types, especially the ones printing from their phones.
People are so resistant to this system, and I just don’t get it.
or create the new plate, right click on the part you want on the new plate and click clone. Can be done all with mouse clicks. I guess I don’t see that as a hassle
Why even press buttons. That’s so 2010s. We could automate it through voice commands. The tech is out there to set something like that up. “computer, copy past selected part onto new plate”
