Thank you mate,
I feel more confident now!
I have the H2S in the cart right now, hesitating between the S and the C…
Hmmm, when I go to checkout it adds the 1399:- euro H2S to 1469,54:-euro?!?
Also adds the free shipping over 299euro as 150:-euro shipping?
Hmm thats an unexpected additional 219,54:- euro that I dont have a clue where it came from?!?
In an interview at Formnext, the Bambu CEO hinted that a successor to the X1C will be released next year, along with new printers and accessories for the BambuLab system.
However, no dates or details were given.
Regarding the discussion between you two, user.174 and olias:
Some time ago, I attended an event organized by a trade association where an intelligence officer specialized in industrial espionage gave a presentation. What he said was, honestly, not particularly flattering - neither with regard to China nor the United States.
My 3D models are not about developing the next big blockbuster product, but if they were, I’m not sure I would choose to produce prototypes using a Bambu Lab printer.
You’re spot on. This topic has come up in multiple threads, and if you’re referring to the same industry groups I’ve attended with former TLA officials as guest speakers, we probably heard the same warnings.
People outside the field often assume there’s no real harm if Bambu sees a user’s latest Groot model in their cloud storage. Those of us who have worked around that ecosystem know otherwise. Under PRC law, Bambu Lab must provide access and control to the government on demand. That requirement is not theoretical.
Before widespread AI, the odds of an STL revealing anything sensitive were low. Today, AI-driven pattern search changes the equation. The same techniques behind features like “find more like this” can sift through STL and STEP files across the Internet, flag geometric patterns of interest, and correlate them with metadata. The file itself is rarely the issue; it’s the identity, affiliations, and project context tied to it through other databases.
This isn’t abstract. Earlier this year, my organization was contacted by an agency investigating how certain technical details from our products had leaked. The information seemed harmless until they traced the parts to Russian use in Ukraine, pulled from salvaged drones despite embargoes we follow to the letter. Benign data can become sensitive very quickly once it’s linked to the right context. (The parts were actually traced to a manufacturer of kitchen appliances and presumably scavenged from there)
For several reasons — including some rather self-interested ones — we probably shouldn’t pursue this conversation any further here 
Why not? 
I can see why the X1C is gone. Back when it was introduced it was something of a revolution in 3-D printing but now the market in general has grown to the point that there are other machines from other vendors doing the same (or even more) for less. It isn’t competitive any more, and for people wanting the flagship top-of-the-line, it isn’t that any more either.
Also after the introduction of the A1 line, users were clamoring for multi-AMS capability but Bambu said such capability would not be coming because shut up, that’s why. They didn’t want to cannibalize sales of the more-expensive printers. Now they have realized that they can sell a lot more AMS boxes and miraculously with some twiddling of the firmware and a $30 gadget (not to mention spare X1 filament buffers many people have lying around) it IS compatible.
Finally, the product line has expanded. The H2 series is now the flagship, A1 is entry level and has multi-AMS capability, the P1 got some largely superficial quality-of-life improvements and can do almost all of what the X1 can do for less and will now take that spot in the lineup. The X1 just has no logical place any more.
I had hoped for an upgraded X1 but the advances that Bambu have made like multi-nozzles and Voron (sorry, Vortek) just would not fit in the 256x256MM chassis without significantly reducing the X axis real estate or making the box a lot wider.
Yes, I’m sorry it is gone. I bought in late spring when I got worried that the tariffs the orange idiot was playing with would make it unaffordable and only finished paying for mine a couple of months ago. Had I known multi-AMS was coming to the A1 (which I also have) and that a cheaper upgraded P2 would come along, I would have waited.
Finally, could the company have handled this better? Absolutely but keep in mind that while we are Bambu Labs customers they are not our friends. They’ll do what suits them and is best for them, not us.
There is absolutely no reason to assume a potential X2 would need to fit in the X1 chassis size.
There is very obvious competion already for multi material machines in the build size class of the P and X series machines.
Bambu Lab are not going to sacrifice that sector of the market.
I think that having kept the P2S to the same physical size they have the obvious path to creating an X2 with a wider enclosure and probably keep the print bed at 256x256 for compatibility with existing builds plates and print beds, or increase it a little if they feel that 270 cubed has sufficient marketing value to justify the change.
Dr Ye was asked in the Formnext interview why H2 didn’t use the carbon rods and lidar and he basically said they didn’t provide the benefits they’d expected.
So it needs to be a new chassis for the X2, it needs a colour changer option and it needs to hit a price point between the P2S and the H2S, and there’s a big price gap there to slot into.
I don’t know of any company that uses BambuLab printers for prototyping and developing pre-production models.
They usually have industrial printers anyway, and in our case, for example, they’re from German/European manufacturers, and if they have them at all, they’re only connected to their own network segments without internet access.
talked to Bambu Lab support and they said its out of stock and not being discontinued ( yet )
Then where’s the announcement of "out of stock " on their webshops (EU, US, UK, etc)?
They certainly won’t tell you that a new model is coming, or when.
My favorite online shop lists the X1C as “sold out”—meaning, ultimately, that there won’t be any more stock.
“Sold Out” just means that they don’t have a date for more stock.
The Thanksgiving/Black Friday sales have cleared out lots of colours of the discounted filaments. Some colours now show a date when expected but others just say “sold out”.
Having said that the UK store still has a link for X1 Series but it takes you to a page that says “Sorry, no products matched your selection”.
That does seem to imply that it’s not coming back in stock
Of course the X1 is EOL. Let’s just face a simple fact: The P2S is a facelifted X1(C) and intended to cover the mid-range. I’ve watched some reviews of the P2S and learned that the toolhead of the P2S has unused connectors. It isn’t very far fetched to assume that Bambu is going to close the existing price gap between P2S and H2S with something like a P2D.
My thoughts on a X2 as the successor of the X1 start with awareness of history: IMO the X1(C) had the metaphorical impact of a H-bomb. They aimed for the moon and this thing shot Bambu from a start-up right to the moon in no time. And heck, my X1C will be 3 years old next month and it is sturdy AF. It’s from the first production batch (like literally short-legged 
) and if I said that it still prints like on day 1 that would be a huge understatement. It prints much better than on day 1. It was already quite good on day 1 and due to the reliable firmware/software updates I think it is now close to perfection.
To those who bought a X1(C) recently and might feel a bit buyer’s remorse now: Don’t worry. You just got a sophisticated, matured, extremely reliable and easy-to-use machine. I am absolutely not worried about the availability of spare parts and accessories for another 3 years. There are probably tens of thousands X1(C)s in good shape out there that don’t need to be replaced at all.
With that in mind, I think that Bambulab is well-advised to aim for the moon again if they launch a X2. Some may think that H2 is the new flagship series. But I don’t regard H2 as groundbreaking FFF-printers. H2s are multi-function-machines and form a category of their own. Their status as flagship printers might be temporary until Bambulab launches another H-bomb named X2 which is laser-focused on FFF printing (without having a laser). At least I hope so 
I can only speculate what killer-feature a X2(C) could include. Perhaps non-planar printing? Perhaps the ability to process PEEK/PEKK/Ultem? Perhaps something else?
I decided not to buy a H2C until I get some clarity on X2: Will it be a thing at all? What will it bring to the table?
Until then I’ll happily keep the X1C as my primary machine. It’s not like I’m in a hurry at all.
Mmmm… I don’t see that. It is a face-lifted P1S that doesn’t quite hit the X1C mark. The X1C still has advantages over the P1 line in terms of build quality and features. Not MANY advantages maybe, but they are there. Bambu had to cut corners somewhere to bring the P2S in at the target price point and they camouflaged that with small more obvious improvements like moving the filament cutter to the back and putting in better lights.
Other than that, pretty good evaluation. I’m happy with my X1C
They did indeed cut corners if you want to put it like that.
No lidar in the P2S. But I for example don’t use the lidar anymore for flow rate fine-tuning. The standard filament profiles these days are usually so good out-of-the box that the lidar is redundant. Plus, since Bambu’s printers became a quasi-standard, many filament brands offer profile downloads anyways. I even noticed a tendency to over-extrusion using the lidar.
Same with first layer inspection. I cannot even remember anymore when I had a first layer issue. So I deactivated it.
The carbon rods? - As it turns out those were just over-engineered.
Thus, they did cut corners where it doesn’t hurt much - or at all. But I’ll admit that I envy the P2S a tiny little bit for the improved extruder and the quick-change nozzle.
I am not sure about this timing. That’s a long time for BL to not have a printer for sale in the $700-1000 range.
For that one would have to wait for X4C or X5C. But X2C should be coming, hopefully soon, with all the features that the H series have, except the larger build volume and the laser module option.
Not cutting corner. This is a common tiered pricing strategy where a company offers products with different feature sets at different prices.
i was just looking thru bambu store and i cant find the x1c enymore did they discontinue it ?
Apparently yes, though Bambu has not yet came out to publicly say that.
Looked in the store some time ago and the X1 was just “grayed” out. Noticed that it has been totally removed from the printer purchase page. Parts are still available though. Has it been discontinued from purchase totally?
