I uploaded a profile to one of your models that got taken down. Not sure if it was reported by you and for the record I don’t really care. I don’t think people should be able to upload profiles without designer approval, I would have uploaded as a remix if your license allowed, but it didn’t, and that’s fine. My only intention was to offer an alternative to people who lack the time or skills to make changes themselves that I have found useful. I’m all for it if people want to upload different profiles of my models, but I think as a minimum maker world should split the points in that situation
I’ll just add the incident that prompted me to create this topic. A user had posted a print profile of my model. It’s a functional part and will be under tension and so I’d posted my print profile using PETG but they changed it to PLA. In addition, they removed the modifier where I’d increased the infill density in areas of the model that needed it. They’d also increased the layer height which I’d set low because of some overhangs that were at a steep angle. Their description of the profile said it printed faster and used less filament (which was true). Somehow it printed ok for them but I know that’s not going to be the case for everyone else.
Because of all that, I reported the profile and it was removed. But then a few minutes later, it was back and all that was corrected was the infill density being back to what I’d set it to originally. I reported it again and, so far, I haven’t had a response from MakerWorld.
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- the model designer should have final say on what profiles are on their page
- If someone else thinks the profile could be better, they should be free to submit a new profile
- There should never be a point reward for uploading a profile to someone else’s design, if you truly want to improve someone else’s profile then you should be free to do so, but your reward is helping the community
- This will ensure that third party profiles are purely beneficial, and anything that the designer deems actually harmful can be quickly and easily removed by them
- a designer should be able to toggle whether profiles are allowed, require review before going up, or blocked entirely
Get over yourself
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And that after this post, where you list things as you would like them to be. That’s exactly my sense of humor ^^ That’s just how the system works here at the moment. And everything else is just my opinion. But of course some people find it difficult to accept this 
If it’s that dramatic, there are plenty of other platforms. In the meantime all we can do is: waiting. I think BL has other worries at the moment …
I’m dealing with this right now so I was very happy to see this being discussed. I’ve submitted a ticket to support to have the submitted profile pulled from my model, but I’m unsure how it even got there since I checked all of the “No” boxes when I uploaded my model.
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IMO, each design on MW should be like a blog post page or a project on github. No body else should be able to inject something into that blog post page or modify/upload code to that project, without approval/consent of the owner.
Sure, people can clone the git then modify it as their own to their heart content but not be able to change anything directly to the original github project. But even open source has its limits and restrictions, not alone the current version license of most of MW designs.
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What did you add one to? I’ve had a couple of times recently (going back a couple of months) where i’ve had a notification that someone added a profile and when i’ve got home clicked the notification and there was nothing there (just my profile) and I assumed it was deleted/removed 
You can re-upload if you want, if it added/changed something I don’t report them
As another said, a fair solution would be allowing the creator to mark profiles as verified by them.
Allowing everyone to start removing things would not stop the uploading, maybe throttle it some, but would 100% create a new problem of some people abusing that system.
There is also the constraint of people printing through the app that causes some profiles to be uploaded, since that is more limited.
I agree with there being a problem but total control over uploads is a loaded and faulty solution at best.
That already exists and has done zero good.
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Is it? I haven’t seen anything on the app that says a profile was designer tested or approved. If that is the case, maybe it’s not obvious enough.
In either case, that would be a broad and unfounded generalization to say it’s done no good. It may not be doing much, and could possibly be improved.
And it still leaves giving all the unchecked power to loads of random people a bad solution.
It looks like this… click the three dots, then edit, and then click the profile…
…afterwards it’ll show with the person and the little heart next to the profile on your model page. It says “Designer Recommendation” when you hover over it with your mouse.
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Oof. That could definitely be a bit more obvious for people. Having it explained wouldn’t hurt, either. I had no idea that was there.
I agree but some designers may just not approve any profiles to keep their points. I do believe that we should have some control.
When MakerWorld was establish, I think everyone was used to sharing STL files as the norm and so I can see why Bambu Lab wanted to incentivize people to post the print profiles. Now everyone is comfortable with creating the print profiles and almost every model I see posted has a print profile for it.
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Thanks, pretty sure it was removed by BL, they seem strict with the wording that is allowed
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It’s their design, if someone else thinks they can do better then they can ask. But there’s no obligation to let someone else do anything to their design
I don’t know if this is a sensible suggestion or not… remove the incentive to create these bogus profiles, trivial mods, etc by changing the reward system so that all the points for anything derived from an original upload initially go to the original creator rather than the person who make the mod or alternative profile - but make it easy for the original creator to give whatever percentage of that reward (from 0 to 100) back to the person who created the derived work - maybe call it giving a tip like in a restaurant. That way genuine improvements can be rewarded by the person best suited to judge but profiles that are valueless and only intended to skim some rewards off will receive nothing while the original creator will still receive the benefit that they would have if their own version had been downloaded. If a creator is selfish and never rewards genuine improvements then I would expect that people would stop making improvements for that creator (and if the tips returned were posted on the creators page it would be visible whether they’re a generous tipper or consistently a tightwad, and whose derived works they considered legitimate and whose they did not.). Similarly, the people making the derived work should be allowed to set a cap on how much the creator can repay them from the credits - if they’re just doing it for the benefit of the community and don’t care about getting a reward, they can flag the model or profile as returning no more than 0% in which case all the points would go to the original creator. In this way we would quickly see who was doing it to syphon benefits from other people’s work and who was doing it because they just want to improve prints for the benefit of others. So with this visible feedback it ought to become a self-regulating system. (I’m fairly new here so let me know if there’s some obvious reason that this wouldn’t work.)
Addendum: I’m not suggesting removing the ability of the original creator to say ‘no remixes’ or ‘no print profiles’. My suggestion is only for how to modify the reward system for the things that are currently allowed.
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I just quote a small section, not the whole post of your because it is too big without any indentation. I am not saying you are wrong here but my post is in different approach.
My opinion is this:
Some artists just don’t like how The Mona Lisa’s staring straight at audience, her eyes like bullets like she is saying “what naughty have you done”. They argue that she should look straight, with more innocent eyes, the portrait would be perfect.
Let assume those artists were right, yeah?! Even so, do those artists have the right to modify The Mona Lisa with the better eyes staring?
We know, there is no stopping you from modifying The Mona Lisa, yeah? But generally no people do that because we all respect Leonardo Da Vinci. It’s just wrong when you modify a masterpiece like The Mona Lisa.
My take on this is: when you upload a print profile without telling the creator or having creator consent, you disrespect the creator. The creator would feel disrespected and discourage to share more of his creativity.
It’s something just like honour among thieves or honour between programmers. Maybe nowaday people don’t have this kind of “code of honour”
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And therein lies one of the biggest issues. Some designers spend a lot if time dialing in a print profile, and then some yahoo uploads a profile that simply makes a layer change for a faster print, but the end result is a less than stellar print. Does the model still work? Yes. Does it work as well as the designer intended? No.
Now the designer might lose a boost because a less awesome model was printed.
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…and someone did the exact same thing today. They posted some print profiles where they changed a bunch of the slicer settings so now it’s going to print differently than I intended.
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