New internet rules come into force this week - here’s what will change | Science, Climate & Tech News | Sky News
Although this is mainly about adult sites and content @MakerWorld does have what could be construed as adult content models ,how will they be adhering to these new rules ? will they need to ? will they be adding age verification by credit/debit card or facial recognition ,or will they just be removing the content
Not just adult content… any content… its why wikipedia is taking uk government to court. I’m sure makerworld would be category 1 site also…
This will no longer be acceptable for the UK, with them being Amazon servers im curious to see if they actually enforce this for sites and good to see reddit have already started
It will allowed but MakerWorld need to add age verification. Most sites will its going to be costly nightmare.
Wait.
Their solution is to just blindly have their citizens hand over their ID, credit card and/or photo to the most dubious websites known to exist?
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Wat.
I would be willing to give them an image of my drivers license with my selfie next to it but for sure, they are not getting a credit card number. That’s ridiculous.
The new internet rule is dumb.
If the change were introduced at the OS level or router, this problem would be solved.
Important
The adult is defined as the purchaser of a product; this is typically the way purchases are made, even kids spending their own money are (or should be) monitored by a responsible adult.
There are cracks to be found, but far fewer than the utterly dumb method we are about to fall into.
Scenario 1 Router Level
If routers had multiple accounts, the purchasers, the adult in the home, business or school, would set up the router. The adult would create an account for themselves and set the “adult flag” to true.
If they were responsible for non-adults, they would create a second account and set the “adult flag” to false.
From this point, the adult would connect the child’s device to the correct details.
Any internet device would read the flag and send it to any requesting site.
The only thing it provides is the adult state of the connected user.
Scenario 2 OS Level
This would be far easier to roll out, but wouldn’t capture all internet traffic.
The purchaser, the adult in the home, business or school, would set up the OS. The adult would create an account for themselves and set the “adult flag” to true.
If they were responsible for non-adults, they would create a second account and set the “adult flag” to false.
From this point, the adult or child would sign in with their account details.
Adult-oriented internet sites would read the flag and allow or deny the connection. Denied connections could create a log of the website URL along with the date/time for any parent who wishes to review usage.
Benefits
- Only connections attempted by an adult or child could be stored by third parties.
- Can be used for any other sites beyond those this dumb law hopes to contend with.
- If the age or the user is under 18 (or whatever age of maturity it is in any country that has something other than 18), the age could be sent. This would mean social media sites could provide a true age-appropriate response.
The idea that adults taking part in perfectly legal activities must surrender their identity to third parties, with the inevitable risk of hacking or worse, is far too great.
This comes in the same week the U.K. government was found to have covered up the hack and theft of a military database containing the brave Iraqi soldiers who risked their lives to help the US and U.K. during the related wars.
The U.K. government is constantly being hacked, and so are U.K. businesses. This is a global problem.
The problem is “How do we protect children from accessing things adults deem unhealthy for them?”
The implied problem: “How do we differentiate the adults from the children?”
To require all adults to hand over personal details to access one category of site, rather than ensuring only adults do, is just so dumb. They forgot their objective.
The U.K. government has created a list of suitable IDs they think could or should be used to confirm the user is an adult.
- Passport
- Driving Licence
- Other photo ID
- Banking Information
- Credit Card information
Excellent for all those wishing to blackmail people for their legal activities.
The government has suggested it may require other activities to fall into this demand for ID for access. They know it has benefits; they have no clue how damaging this is.
Remember
You access your phone with your Face or Fingerprint. This has proven very successful. When paying for goods, you are required to confirm with your Face or Fingerprint. Nothing about you is shared with the business, not your identity, activity, or your actual payment card details.
A simple solution for a complex problem implemented with care.
Have you met politicans? Their brightest idea is usually quite stupid by average person standards.
Also, the “think of the children” is one of 3 dumb excuses for pushing dumb regulations. The other 2 are: “terrorists would win” and “copyright”
On the other side are parents. It’s parent’s responsibility to monitor their child’s environment and threats, including virtual ones. To quote Warrior-Poet Eminem, in his poem “Who Knew”:
Get aware, wake up, get a sense of humor
Quit tryin’ to censor music, this is for your kid’s amusement (The kids!)
But don’t blame me when little Eric jumps off of the terrace
You shoulda been watchin’ him, apparently you ain’t parents
If this law is applicable to MW, then one solution will be to have a separate site for UK, like that for the China site which requires a chinese phone number to register an account. The UK law seems even more strict, requiring docs such as passport, driver license, bank, credit card info.
China needs to keep up with UK lol
For most users it probably won’t matter, if you’re not accessing the NSFW content then there is no need to verify you
I once walked into a bar ,a bookstore(newsagents) and a cinema where i was asked to verify i was 18/21+ ,in the main this is just an extension of those ,already in place laws both here (uk) and abroad.
@MakerWorld in my opinion should be considered as a family friendly 3d printing website, so to view adult themed content users should verify their age ,not blindly answer yes to the question ,do you want to view ,just as a matter of course ,last week a plate of female friendly appliances were uploaded to the site,
its not just the uk looking to protect its minors
In China you need to provide ID to get the phone service, hence the phone number is associated with a known person. I had to provide two ID, driving license and passport to get my Chinese phone number.
I’m going to assume that my post was removed via some automation because I’m not really sure what aspect of it was against the rules since I called the line of thinking stupid; not the user or people.
With how the maker world accounts and printers are linked its gonna be a big mess.
Currently printer can be linked to one account only.
If you have one printer and multiple adult/minor users it does not work well.
Example:
So assuming you want to let your child design their own stuff and access the printer from their computer, you have no other option than to log in with Adult account in to Bambu studio. And this opens the door to maker world. One click away is all the adult content maker world offers.
I don’t think Bambu really cares as otherwise they would allow to link printer to more than one account at a time and would have some way of creating “minor” account/subaccount that would keep all the NSFW stuff away from kids.
But nah, their approach: one printer - one account at a time and make it as messy as it can be to switch between accounts
My line of thinking or the laws line of thinking? because it doesn’t seem like they would need to verify ages if you’re not accessing NSFW content, they would just block you from seeing it until you were verified as the rest of the site is very much considered suitable for all ages
Google joins age assurance market as Wallet use cases, availability expand | Biometric Update
Google Wallet is integrating zero knowledge proofs (ZKPs) so that users can perform age verification without disclosing their identity through the Digital Credentials API. The company says the move protects user privacy while also allowing fast age verification across different mobile devices, apps and websites.
That makes sense… by default disabled in the search, and only once you verify your age, you’ll have the option to include it in the searches. Kind of like how you’d turn on the boost notification under the marketing option in your profile. Just have a radio button to turn on NSFW content and ask for age verification only once you try to enable it.
Problem now becomes, is NSFW applied with common sense or are Michelangelo’s David and the Venus de Milo also part of it. There are certainly “fully dressed” anime characters that should fall much more into that category rather than pieces of art. Not even going to mention guns and knifes, but those are okay because they’re props only… at least that’s what it says in the rules.
People will skirt the lines without doubt, i would say artistic things like that probably wouldn’t need the NSFW tag, basically if it can be displayed in public it shouldn’t need it
Its one of those things the community will probably have to help police