Hey, I’m starting to see more and more AI tools available for 3d models. Even MakerWorld released one recently.
In one way I find it super interesting and fascinating but on the other hand I’m a bit concerned as a 3d model designer.
And recently, I’m starting seeing AI generated 3d models uploaded on MW. I don’t think it’s against their guidelines but I think it would be a good thing to label those as AI generated. It’s maybe not a big issue now, they are easy to identify since they are fairly low poly but it could become more problematic in a near future.
I’m afraid that it can ruin the rewards system pretty quickly if nothing is done to regulate those AI generated models.
I personally think the reward system has had its day. When a no effort model gets rewarded the same as the one that took a week to design and evaluate, it tips the balance unevenly in the AI favour. Don’t get me started on public domain copy/pastes….
Yeah maybe removing the boost system or the rewards system completely on those kind of models could help a bit but it will be a nightmare to enforce if even it’s doable.
The reward system should stay in place in my opinion. It motivates a lot of people to actually provide good content and quality documentation of the prints and provide ongoing support.
But yes, the way i see it, it will get abused more and more and this page could be flooded in no time with generic designs. Nothing against AI in general and it’s always up to the users to download or boost whatever they like but the worst part (imo) is that it gets used in a misleading way. AI generated covershots get posted more and more (and in better quality in future) and unexperienced users will think they are looking at a real object that they can print themselves only to be disappointed. This seems to be a whole marketing scheme for some (yes, looking at you Deltaprints) and might be lucrative for them but overall it hurts the whole community and disencourages honest designers putting actual effort in their projects.
I think MW should address this problem directly and not allow misleading covers, especially because Bambu printers seem to be the entry level - goto choice for people starting with 3d printing and with it MW the first gateway to this world.
Soon we will see who designed out of passion and who stopped because they were chasing fame, recognition, and easy money. AI models are going to be prevalent in less than a year, and no one can do a thing about it. I’m glad that is coming!
Look at what AI has done for 2D illustration. It’s a wonderful tool. The only ones who are crying are some “artists” because they defined themselves by their skills. They wanted to gatekeep their craft, and now they can’t anymore.
I’m opposed to specifying “AI-generated” or “made with AI,” or curbing the reward system in favor of traditional designers.
This reminds me of many things old business models tried to do when the internet started. For example, the entertainment and music industries wanted to regulate (ban) peer-to-peer sharing. They failed. P2P has been overshadowed by better-paying offers from new actors in the music and entertainment industries, but for those who want it, it’s still very much alive. The masses just got used to paying for Netflix and streaming music. The brick-and-mortar booksellers didn’t want Amazon, and they failed too. There are countless more examples. Maybe we could learn that we can’t regulate technology; we should just enjoy it and adopt it—the sooner, the better.
Designers, use it to your advantage. Make AI do part of your work, get inspired by it, and be one of those who continue designing.
This text has been corrected and reformulated in better english by chat gpt, to stay in the theme of this topic ^^
I gave up on posting my models a long time and things are just getting worse every year.
Creators get stung again and again, have to jump through loops and hurdles to get their stolen content taken down.
Still they won’t get the money back the thief made.
AI models just ruin thing further.
For starters: You CAN’T create a printable model from a single pic or two.
And then there is those other tools where people no longer need any skills at all to create a model.
And BOTH rotten ways get the full support from Bambu and other hosting sites.
Already many creators I used to deal with wandered off to Patreon only or websites still honouring real creators and standing behind them.
That means registration by INVITE ONLY and such limitations to keep the boffos out…
Were lightyears away from AI producing a full hifi mesh 3D model with zero flaws.
It’s easy for it to generate a hollow mesh and build a surface of a photo. The difference is between the photo 3D Model and 3D scanner. Scanning at least will create a solid body which is what we want versus a hollow mesh with millions of garbage facets.
Don’t lose any sleep [yet], I’m in the business as well plus my career in based on modeling which I see absolutely no AI taking over what I do exactly strictly because it’ll involve the safety of people and their lives. All of which we certainly do not trust AI to handle
I have nothing against AI, there are awesome tools.
But everything needs and has regulations and for good reasons. One of those is intellectual property and licensing. “Artists” are not gatekeeping their craft, they want to protect their work which is two totally different things.
And funnily enough, AI model uploaders are the ones chasing easy money not the “artists” ^^
It’s not because we are at the early stage (far west age) of AI tools that we can do everything we want with then.
And Makerworld should implement some safeguards like adding a AI generated label on those models.
Yeah, I didn’t say you were against “AI”; my comment is not aimed at you specifically.
But I think copyright is outdated and needs to go.
“Artists” are indeed gatekeeping because they did exactly what AI does when they were learning their craft: copying and being inspired by other artists who came before them. Now that a machine is doing the same, better and faster, at a fraction of the cost for the final user, they are whining…
To “protect someone’s work” is not a smart move, work need to evolve and change, and people need to be more adaptable cause that’s what human do best, to adapt to survive. Not slowing down innovation for temporary peace of ming, and “morals”
I don’t like regulations, safeguards, disclaimers IRL so imagine what I think about them on the web ^^
I think the issue is that we are disillusioned with AI generated models not because they are better, but because they are worse (as of now). Personally, It bothers me when a low effort and uncreative AI upload is successful just because it looks good, while other designers are not recognized for a model that may have taken them 10x the time and effort to create.
No, it is by no means the same. AI is not “inspired” by anything, it simply copies real peoples art and mixes it together. By mixing together the art of many creators, the software merely attempts to obscure the origins.
Until artificial intelligence develops its own consciousness, AI will not generate any real creativity and art of its own.
There is a big copyright problem with AI which in future surely will be adressed by the big players.
I learned to draw, it’s exacly the same. First you copy, then you mix, then after a while you create an intricated mix of all your influences, and develop your own style (which is just a mix of all your influences and trial and errors). Creation don’t exist in a vacuum.
I understand what you say, but the time and effort to make something is not equal to value for people other than the creator. It reminds me of this trendy song " it cost that much cause it takes me freaking hours". For me it’s a ridiculous excuse to value something. Value is determined by what the thing you are valuating is offering to your client.It depends on what the perceived value is, it can varry in funcion of who is your client. Not the time the creator spent on creating it. That’s an old and deprecated way of seeing business.
Why is this an issue? Because you feel your time is worth more, yet you’re posting you work on a free site? So it’s not the value in time and effort but the value in points and potential rewards. I guess I’m wondering if you’re willling to share your creation for free then where is the value? It would be in the usefulness and “joy” someone would find in it if it meets a need.
If someone slams a keyboard and comes up with a prompt that creates a printable file, and it provides usefulness and joy then how is it “lesser”?
I see a lot of supposition in regards to copying ideas or flat out copying work. That’s an issue without AI and honestly could be left out entirely. It’s not about ease of copying, because your file can be downloaded and used for that.
Effort could be left out as well. In the end it’s not going to be assigned any value (or not much) to the end user. Filling the need is, again, what value is assigned to. If effort matters to you then good, it should. However it’s not relevant to the end user. Not all, if any, are really going to think about the effort after a minute or two. I seriously doubt anyone has printed anyones files and then, while showing the print, comments on how much effort the creator put into the design (maybe special functional prints could be the exception)
I am not trying to insult anyone for having opinions that differ from how I see it. How I see it is simply some feeling morally righteous, and resentful that it can be done easier using technology.
Just my 2 cents. I’m sorry (mostly) if this rubs someone the wrong way.
maybe removing the boost system or the rewards system completely on those kind of models could help a bit but it will be a nightmare to enforce if even it’s doable.