Are 2nd gen BL printers less reliable than 1st gen?

[RetroSharky]

@AlexM

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Thank you so much for posting the video. However, I have to agree with what has already been said here. Using only the seconds as a reference of an edited video that isn’t even in real time really made me laugh out loud. It’s a really weak argument.

Even comparing a two-nozzle system with a single-nozzle system is questionable because the range of required functions introduces complexity. You should compare a single-nozzle system with a single-nozzle system, or a two-nozzle system with a two-nozzle system.

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Besides, how does that actually relate to the main topic? Why should a two-nozzle system be considered less reliable than a single-nozzle system across the board? Because it has duplicate components?

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Just to play this very far-fetched comparison: Is a motorcycle more reliable because it has two tires, compared to a car with four tires?

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And now, to go back and connect the dots on how this side discussion got started:

@AlexM

Definitely not the plug-and-play design we’re used to with P1 & P2 machines.

Neither the P1S nor the P2S had a plug-in system for the extruder. That’s simply a false statement. Both screws and cables had to be removed. The cables from the hot end had to be disconnected to access the screws on the extruder.

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@RetroSharky

The cables from the hot end had to be disconnected to access the screws on the extruder.

Don’t forget about the filament cutter. Complexity, as they say.

[RetroSharky]

@Advocado

Complexity, as they say.

Actually, we should first turn the question around 180 degrees:

Which printer is truly plug-and-play and requires no knowledge of the device, no screwdriver, and no cables to disconnect - in other words, exactly what the user is talking about? What kind of mysterious printer is this - one that has no complexity and is all plug-and-play?

I’d like to see proof of that first.

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Warning: May contain traces of sarcasm.

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@RetroSharky

Which printer is truly plug-and-play and requires no knowledge of the device, no screwdriver, and no cables to disconnect - in other words, exactly what the user is talking about? What kind of mysterious printer is this - one that has no complexity and is all plug-and-play?

Probably this

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Ah, @AlexM made a post where everything kinda clicks together. The woes of owning an X2D

Seems like another instance where the person wanted an H2C but decided to go with X2D, imagining multicolor prints with a printer that primarily was made to handle aux support material…

This from their post here is quite self-explanatory: The woes of owning an X2D - #10 by AlexM

I, probably the last person, who would say anything in favor of BL, but that’s just unreasonable bashing of a product that was never even meant to do that reliably and good.