The MW print profile stuff isn’t for me either… It would be really interesting if one could upload print profile modifications: that would provide a learning opportunity for everyone. E.g., “I changed this and that parameter because of X”. Then I could look at a couple of profiles for a print and pick the one that seems most interesting to me and perhaps learn something in the process.
I think one way to curtail “profile abuse” is to not award download points to the profile creator for downloading their own profiles. I had created 6 profiles for one of my uploads and tested each one by downloading into Studio to check if there were any problems with them. Surprisingly, I wound up with 6 downloads for the model. I could see how people would just upload bad profiles and then just download them to score points. This might remove some of the incentive to spam profiles.
I think it might be helpful to have an organizational structure to print profiles.
First, is profiles that print a fundamentally different object.
So if you add AMS colour, scale it. Add multiples, rearrange parts or have different target geometry, it should be a different branch.
When the author updates a model it needs to trace the lineage of all the parts in these profiles and suggest that they get the same updates.
Second is profiles that modify settings for any reason. These should include a reference to the source print profile which holds identical geometry and automatic listing of the values changed.
Then if a setting change is better for everyone it should be possible for the original author to simply merge that setting into the source profile.
A single setting change shouldn’t require a photo and description and story just list it out with a one line comment and give some stats on ratings and downloads.
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MakerWorld formally addresses this Print Profile issue:
"Dear MakerWorld Community,
We want to address a crucial aspect of our platform to enhance the user experience for all our valued members. Accumulating points on MakerWorld is integral to the MakerWorld experience. However, we’d like to emphasize that earning points is not as straightforward as merely uploading Print Profiles.
To uphold the highest quality standards and ensure an exceptional printing experience, we kindly ask all Print Profile creators to meticulously assess the quality of their submissions. Additionally, we now require Print Profile creators to include actual print images alongside their Print Profiles. As of today, we’re offering a grace period of 10 days for Print Profile creators to update their existing creations. During this period, creators only need to add actual print images to the ‘Print Profile Pictures’ section.
After these 10 days, in the interest of fairness and transparency, Print Profiles lacking actual print images will be automatically placed at the end of the list on model pages. Moreover, the model designer will have the authority to review and remove such Print Profiles. This step allows us to prioritize Print Profiles that offer a comprehensive and accurate representation of the intended print.
We highly value your feedback and your dedication to the MakerWorld community. If you have any additional concerns or suggestions about this update or any other aspect of our platform, please don’t hesitate to contact us. We’re here to listen and continuously enhance the MakerWorld experience for all our users.
Best regards,
The MakerWorld Team"
I was noticing that too thanks for sending up a ticket. It was reminding me to rate a profile I started printing only to realize I wasn’t using the filament I wanted to actually print with… Bambu knows the print was cancelled by the user so what would determine “stopped because of a seen failure” vs our situations?
For 4 to 5 star ratings, you need a recorded finished print of that print profile. You won’t need any photo to rate
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Yes you’re correct. I’ve removed my post as it contained incorrect information
Conversely, you don’t need to have a “successful” or a “Failed” print to rate a Print Profile(PP) 1-3 stars and the user gets rewarded with MW points just the same as a 4-5 star rating. So, now there’s PPRS (Print Profile Rating Spam).
Now that a photo is required when uploading a PP they are stealing my photos or photos posted in a comment. So, all this policy has done is make it slightly less convenient for the PPS’ers (Print Profile Spammers).
I really like that BL tried to do anything about this stuff, but now all the spammers just check the “This print profile passed my print test.” checkbox and either just steals my photo or don’t even include a passed print image… Reported a bunch of them days ago and nothing happens. I know being able to publish new print profiles is a good idea, if they actually are improvements, or has some sort of value.
Maybe the designer should have a little more say in the whole thing. You cant just remove walls and weaken the infill then call it “fast”, because that also means its weak and the designer is the one that’s going to get the blame for it when the ■■■■ breaks. I’ve even gotten low ratings and complains due to people not fixing their own bed adhesion issues which is not related to me at all, why do I have to take the fall for someone obviously just spamming ■■■■ that sucks? I could snap that print with my bare hand. Why is the designer not allowed to remove profiles no matter if they included a printed image or not? I get some egoistic designers might abuse that and not let other people uploaded improved profiles, but that feels like a hand full of people, compared to 300 bots on all popular models spamming garbage print profiles. Feels like that would be a minute problem in comparison.
Or why don’t BL train their automatic system to just automatically permanent ban everyone that uploads a profile called “★ 𝐅𝐚𝐬𝐭”, seems like every single spammed profile uses that exact word and symbol… I get banned for uploading models that becomes “too popular” and have to spend weeks talking with the support. But people can just spam “★ 𝐅𝐚𝐬𝐭” profiles all over the place without any repercussion?
Its a race to the bottom, just lower the amount of infill and wall, call it fast to get attention. If this ■■■■ is kept up soon there will be nothing but profiles with 1 wall and 2% infill that will fall under their own weight. Faster also means weaker in 90% of the cases.
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Hello guys!
I am trying to find an answer to a question that occoured me the few times I uploaded a print profile for some designer that didn’t upload them for models that have been there for a while and I printed.
there is a box to thick that says :Present the model designer with MakerReward Points on this print profile.
I always tick that because I want to give the points to the model maker . Because that is what “Present the model designer with MakerReward Points on this print profile.” means am I right?
Anyway I see that there are some designers that never (NEVER) upload their print profile for their works (one of them is “trending” right now). So I think the best thing to do in this case is don’t tick that box. If the points go to me or nowhere I don’t care…
But actually I don’t find any info of how this works. Every designer should upload their print profile to prove that they are actually printing with a bambu lab printer. In this specific case I don’t think this designer is doing that.
You don’t have to own a BBL printer to upload models on makerworld. What makes you think you should?
So there is no issue in uploading print profile in accounts of designers that just upload their 3d model and getting points out of those? Am I right?
Anyway, I guess I thought that Maker world was intended to be a platform where owners of Bambu lab printers uploaded their designs and print profile.
My mistake.
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Well no, it’s not just for Bambu Lab owners. Same as Printables isn’t just for Prusa owners.
You can only get a maximum of 100 points for uploading the first profile and a max 15 points for any other profile uploads, so unless someone has multiple fake profiles, they aren’t gaining a lot.
Good to know, I am quite new and noticed two people also uploaded two profiles for two of my designs but didn’t think about all that is connected with that.
sure but the print profiles are only for BL owners … maybe they should require print profiles to be uploaded from the handy app only after a successful print?
Well you have to prove you’ve done a successful print by way of photo to upload a profile (and model now I believe?). Also, if you use modified settings, like start and end gcode, the system will create a stock settings profile when you upload it. I don’t believe in the system, I think it’s got way to many flaws still We are just pawns to them, some of us scrabbling to make enough points for a few gift cards, while the company is chasing complete market domination by getting more machines out there, regardless of how many people are gaming the system to “buy” them.
right but if its entirely up to the user to provide the photo there will always be problems. Otherwise I agree with you. They provide wiggle room to popular creators, cant seem to get a handle on the multitude of obvious cheaters and then astro turf hobbyists like myself because they’ve changed the rules since the last time i uploaded anything
If you can’t manage to upload a picture then you should reconsider some things in life.
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your snark is not helpful
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