Better print quality on P1S? Side by side examples

We are seeing better print quality on our P1S compared to the X1C. The P1S is brand new, and the X1C has 30ish hours of printing time.

This example is of engraved text on the vertical face.
The P1S is crisp and clean-looking.
The X1C is utter trash quality.

BOTH machines are using the same stl file and settings.

What I have tried…

  1. Fully re-calibrated
  2. followed the belt tensioning routine from BL wiki
  3. cleaned and lubricated the lead screws and guide rods.
  4. swapped filament, actually used the same spool on both of the samples.
  5. swapped printer position on the rack to eliminate vibration or stability concerns.

Basically, both machines are setup exactly the same, but the P1S has much better print quality than the X1C. The X1C is older and has more print time… perhaps I have severely neglected some aspect of maintenance???

What am I missing?
I believe the settings are identical… could I be mistaken? what setting would cause this?
The same stl file is used on both machines, should I prepare the files differently for the different machines?

Please see the attached photos… The top is the X1C, and the bottom is the P1S

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Here is a slightly better picture that shows the difference.
For reference, the text is less than 1/4 inch tall.

Thanks so much for any help or insight you have,
Mike

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And which car drives faster, the one with or without Anti-lock braking system. Make 200 prints of each and tell me by which printer more parts are crashed and which Printer needs more attention :wink:

I truly have no idea what you are trying to say… Perhaps I’m that clueless and your comment was super witty or clever, and it went completely over my head… but since English is indeed my native language, I’m not sure that is the case.

FYI, I have printed more than a dozen of this test print on the P1S and they are all good quality…
and I have printed 20+ on the X1C and they are all complete junk quality…

But still, I seriously have no clue what you were trying to say. I’m sorry, and I hope you are not offended if you were trying to be funny.

Mike

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Hank believes that because he has no such issues, that his extra spending on his X1C was worthwhile and that the “poor” version P1P will obviously fail more than the X1 in the long run.:joy:

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I see…thank you for the interpretation.

We have X1Cs, P1Ps, and now two of the P1S… and while the X1c does indeed come across as more refined, with more “buttons and whistles”… it is the only one that I’m having this problem with.

We have 6 Bambu lab printers, and they are all basically the same printer, at least in terms of print quality, and when printing non-exotic material…

I truly would like insight, and hopefully a solution, to the odd problem I’m having with the X1C.

Thanks for all the help,
Mike

I would check the belt tensions, and don’t mind the A-holes in the rooms, eventually what ever is stuck up theirs will either die soon or burrow its way out either way their problem not yours

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Hey, thanks for the suggestion and advice.

I would definitely agree, this “feels” like a belt tension issue. Perhaps the auto-tensioner is not functioning correctly.

I have tried the tensioning procedure that BL directs you to. But I have my doubts that loosening the 4 screws, moving the extruder back and forth, and then tightening the screws is actually doing anything. The tension never seems to tighten up or really change in any way, and I have tried about a dozen times.

But until I have a better suggestion, belt tension is the path I’m taking for now.

Thanks again!!!

Running the latest firmware on the X1C? Have you done a factory reset and rerun the calibration procedure?

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Ummm… No, I have not, as embarrassing as that is… I hadn’t thought to try that even though it sounds so obvious now…

Thank you for the suggestion, I will try that tonight.

Mike

Yes, you are properly right :thinking: :wink: Thanks for getting the topic on the right track, I’ll have to read it more carefully :wink:

@user_4139374187 Sorry, I was completely wrong and my statement was completely inappropriate.

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Why don’t you just share the file (or a simplified version) with all the settings or as G-code here in the forum?
Also include the filament and manufacturer.
There are certainly some members here who are willing to do a test print - if 500g of filament is not required.
There is often a lack of information to provide a helpful answer.
L.G.
Frank

For me, it looks like a difference in the k-factor (or dynamic flow, or pressure advance). This makes edges in X-Y round. Should be visible not only on the font,but also on the 4 edges of the part itself. If the value is too high, edges get round. A value too low makes the edges expand to the outside, since there is too much material.

Sorry for my bad English :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

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That made absolutely no sense

If you aren’t 100% sure that the print settings are identical, start there.

Export the settings from the P1P project and use them on the X1C

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Your English is excellent. It’s better than other native speakers on this thread…including me. :slightly_smiling_face: