All of those things, minus chamber heat, are now standard features on basic-bitch $300 printers. If they ship another P1 style LCD in $current-year-argument, when I can go to ali and get a touchscreen LCD at consumer price qty1 for $5…
They said in their interview months ago that they’re working / experimenting with all sorts of systems. I would bet that if a tool changer would come, it would be a P1P sucessor due to the nature that tool changer are usually open enclosure printers focused on PLA/PETG/TPU due to the design limitations that come with a tool changer.
Bambu has never been, and never will be, a company whose product caters to the bleeding edge, hardcore users, or position itself as pioneers of newest novel tech. If you look at it, the H2D is just Bambu thinks there’s enough mainstream appeal for stuff included in the H2D (no, I don’t mean the laser).
That is the fundamental line of thoughts behind their decision and bets making, successful or not. What the ‘core fanbase’ wants, like you said, seems very much secondary.
Just look at how they approached BBS slicer. It’s never the most ‘feature rich’. They don’t copy everything Orca adds, they can, it won’t be hard, but they don’t. Bambu’s entire pricing strategy rests on mass volume. Combined together, it seems their evaluation is for tech (that they think) matured enough to be added (or refined by themselves) for both mass users and professional studios. It’s also why they are pushing MW so hard, for people that don’t even know how to CAD.
As a last thought, it’ll be good for the market for QiDi/Snap’s new kit to succeed, but I’m really tired of seeing all those victory lap posts when these machines haven’t even had a month out in the wild to prove themselves, seriously?
A filament dryer? You think that is going to be the lynchpin?
Anyway, back on subject: the speculation in these comments of whether this is a single nozzle printer is hilarious to me. Just zoom in on the picture - you can pretty clearly make out the single nozzle design, which appears to be similar to the A1-like tool head bottom we saw on the “leaked” image of the supposed H2S a few months ago.
I don’t think there’s any question this is a single nozzle printer. Whether it will have the other bells and whistle that the H2D has that nobody asked for is certainly up for debate though.
I expect to see the accuracy benefits provided by some of the additional alignment technology in the H2D in a single nozzle printer with a similar build volume to the H2D, which is also capable of using the same build plates as the H2D, with interchangeable nozzles also the same as the H2D.
I don’t personally expect to see it being capable of using the laser cutter, etc. but given Bambu’s investment in creating an entire “materials” ecosystem, I wouldn’t be surprised to see it, either. I wouldn’t expect that they thought they could create an entire market for those materials by only supporting them with a single printer…so logic suggests this one will be able to use them in some way, if not identical to the H2D.
See people saying dual nozzle isn’t a good thing or its a unnecessary, is obsolete…
For me the dual nozzle is a game changer in the real world with “normal” prices , not a 4500/5000$ printer noisy as hell with tool changer with 5 colors (i want more than 8 colors, 12 is the best for me).
I started to make things i cant make with one nozzle and if the slicers start to make a better jobs (two sizes and thinks like this)…
Exciting, I have been interested in H2D not because of dual nozzle or the laser/cutter but because it has some improvements A1 had over the X and P while also having a active heated chamber.
So this seems to be exactly what I was looking forward to, a back to base large core xy, high speed, easy nozzle change like A1 series, good nozzle wipe system, heated chamber, steel rails, etc.
Nice work
H2S should be cheaper (a lot) that the H2D.
That’s why the X1C has been in the last sale so cheap. BBL has to step regularly the price between X1C, H2S and basic H2D.
The picture gives the hint that its a single nozzle. Linear rails, like the H2D vs. Carbon Tubes. I think it is going to be a stripped down H2D. Essentially, a large X1C.
*I think the Snapmaker will give Bambu a run for it’s money. Open source software, it already has Orca Slicer integration, 4 heads and a MSRP of $999, $749 for Kickstarter. Wow…
Respectfully, I disagree. With the X1C, Bambu was truly bleeding edge for several years—there was absolutely nothing in that price range or category that came close. They delivered real breakthroughs in one sleek, well-integrated package.
The H2D, however, is a different story. If you started with H2D, I can understand your perspective.
As for the Q2, it seems to be based on the Q1. If it performs like the Q1 but with AMS support, that’s already a huge win at its price point. Still, let’s wait and see how it performs in practice.
I deleted my original post because, on second thought, I believe Bambu knows exactly what they’re doing. Their marketing team clearly understands where the largest untapped market is, and they’re targeting that space. They’ve already maximized the X1C market, so new sales in that segment would likely be limited.
What’s still puzzling, though (unless the market research makes it obvious), is why they didn’t simply “upgrade” the X1C with a heated chamber, 360°C nozzle, and 120°C bed. That would have been low-hanging fruit and would’ve kept the X1C firmly at the bleeding edge. I know the H2D includes those features, but it’s not the X1C…
If you inspect the image and go to the source(I’d post link but it’s not allowed), you can get a larger image that shows the build size numbers. The first one is hard to read but some color tweaking in photoshop you can see 340x320x340. I kind of expected the X to be 350 since the is the actual plate size of the H2D but I guess it needs to accommodate other things unless you can override that a little. I don’t remember how much of the print area vs plate size on the other printers are.
There could be a mismatch between Bambu Lab and 3D printing enthusiasts here.
Enthusiasts only have technology in mind. BL on the other hand, looks at technology in the context of its mission, which is to bring 3D printing to the masses. It probably won’t implement a technology just because it’s cool or trendy. If it doesn’t fit with its mission at the time, it won’t use it.
One example is the A series. Their launch was met with overwhelming disapproval from enthusiasts. However the series turned out to be a market success.
