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HmmmmâŚanother new, even larger, printer?..
Being a H2D owner, I hope it doesnât make me feel as though I went in too soon!..
The new unit is named H2SâŚso what could the âSâ stand forâŚspeed?
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This is the content from the post I created due to BL originally locking this post to avoid assumed negative comments.
As they unlocked it after that complaint, my post (likely by design) wouldnât be surfaced.
Original post below.
Bambu Lab has just announced the upcoming printer with a teaser, locked to avoid comments of likely disappointment.
https://forum.bambulab.com/t/big-reveal-is-coming-soon/190857/3
It appears to be a H2D with the benefits it brought mostly removed.
Given the Snapmaker multi tool changer has just been announced, we must all be wondering, why hasnât Bambu Lab developed one of these.
The market leader is now playing catch up with a game plan.
The H2D was an ok printer, lots of promise, less in reality, far more bugs and breakdowns than should be expected for a company that previously prided itself their products âjust workâ.
The dial nozzle was cute, but not as useful as the IDEX I had years ago. I donât like the idea of putting lasers and cutters inside a machine that requires precision that dust and fibres actively stops.
Then there were the delays, that still persist with parts and upgrades.
All this when multi tool changers are now a thing.
I will say, the Snapmaker hasnât made it to market yet, but the brand has a track record for quality. I know, so did other companies as I highlighted above.
If they can create a four head, auto everything printer for less than the X series and BL canât, there is a problem.
A big problem.
I know what you are thinking, at least Bambu Lab can make it up with great customer service, right. Sorry, I almost choked myself trying to type that while not dying of laughter.
It looks like we should expect a cut down H2D with an expected (by me) price tag above the X series while the market is shifting to actual tool changing, true multi material models.
My two cents.
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H2D - Dual Nozzle/Hotend, H2S - Single Nozzle/Hotend
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I think itâs a larger single nozzle⌠something along the 350x350x350âŚbut i might be proven wrong ⌠weâll have to wait and see.
Anyway, if itâs a single or dual nozzle itâs already obsolete, as multitoolheads are clearly what the consumers expect/want and definitely the way to go.
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Sir, thatâs a H2D build plate - I doubt they would do separate plate that looks identical to H2D one, so itâll be more like 350x320x325.
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I would be more inclined to say itâs the exact same size as the H2D, but single extruder (meaning uniform build bed print width) and not laser/drawer ready out of the box⌠upgrade kit material. Guess weâll find out soon!
I keep adding comments to the unofficial post, annoying.
Assuming the H2S is the same printer as the H2D without the only partly useful part, a second nozzle, it might end up having a technically larger print volume.
As the H2D has a compromised width reduction of 25mm depending on the nozzle which canât be used by the other nozzle and can only really be utilised if each nozzle has identical materials negating the benefits of two nozzles, the H2S presumably wouldnât be restricted in the same way.
This means the H2S would have an 25mm width size advantage over the H2D.
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Since H2D stands for âHybrid; 2nd Gen; Dualâ, H2S should follow this scheme, then it would be with/without laser again, but this time only with a single extruder.
But we will see âŚ
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âonlyâ an H2D with a single head and so it can print a little largerâŚ
Iâm waiting for a multihead printer like the prusa XL or the ânewâ snapmaker U1⌠that would be nice from Bambu Lab âŚ
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So you still expect a price over 1300$?
I was hoping more like a P1S : X1C = H1S : H2D situation, to stay about 1K or even lower. Stripping down display, metal parts, heated chamber, hardened steel extruder/nozzle and such.
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Well this can be a test. Are they delusionally following the apple path? Locking down ecosystem, introducing pay gates into software⌠Letâs see if they are truly sniffing their own farts enough to try to charge 1500 for this lol
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Is the standard H2D design being compromised in any meaningful way, in any logical fashion to accommodate the laser edition? I canât recall one. If not, no one is forcing anyone to choose the laser edition.
Iâm also watching those releases with interest, but none of the new ones have proven themselves just yet, and as cool as the XL is, I keep seeing owners mentioned stuff that implies it not being a tool that just works. idk, grass is greener?
I very much understand frustrations encountered for such a pricey machine, but having production QA problems, while bad, is not the same as those. Of all the machines in my shop, my H2D has been an absolute joy to use, and upgrade in enabling what I can make at batch. In fact, I expected a lot less in gains from the product reveal, some of the gains only became apparent to me the more I used it. I push my machines and prints quite far in the quality direction. I get nothing for shilling anyone but it has been a fantastic experience for me, I must be hallucinating huh?
Canât speak for everyone, but imo, exaggeration only hurts getting points across.
As for the H2S, if it uses A1 hotend thus A1âs tiny extruder gears, lol, very mediocre choice from bambu.
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Yes.
I do not think they want to cannibalise their X series printers.
It seems unlikely the sale X series will remain permanent. Probably a small drop.
I believe they want clear distinctive price breaks.
- A1 mini
- A1
- P1P (still surprised this has been dropped)
- P1S
- X1C
- H2S
- H2D
- Mixing of H2S & H2S depending on extras (laser etc)
With increasing price gaps.
If the H2S fails to support the cutter and laser options, the price may be lower. I donât think that is likely though given the 2 means second generation.
My wish is to see a truly competitive 3D printer in the âŹ300â400 price range, designed as a fully enclosed system.
I say this because some other companies which I prefer not to name already sell printers around âŹ300 that offer nearly the same capabilities as the P1S
I think the S will stand for âSlightly More Expensiveâ.
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