Can anyone clarify what these lines are?

I’m noticing on quite a few prints that the top surface layer is getting these rather odd artefacts. I think it has something to do with how my P1S prints in sequence per layer. There’s a few ideas I’ve thought of:

  1. Infill. If using grid, it might be displacing the layer below causing the layer to be slightly higher in a few areas.
  2. Method of layer lines, i.e. it’ll print on area continuously, stop once complete, then move to another area making me think it’s possibly hot filament causing it to look shiny.
  3. My gut tells me it’s a slicer setting. I always leave ‘Bed Levelling’ checked, so I don’t think it’s that. I sometimes use ironing, although this increases the length of the printing process and isn’t always the desired effect I’m looking for.

This is using Bambu Lab PLA Basic Black and Pumpkin Orange.

Slicer settings below:


TIA. :smiley:

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Reduce the flow. Say down to 0.90, 0.88 or even lower.

You might have done the calibration, but IMO, underextrusion a bit is better if airtight requirement is not a must.

To me this looks like different starts and stops of the infil on the topsurface. While filling it in, the printer stops at different parts and starts again later fo fill in the part completely. This causes the lines to cool down differently and this shows up as the surface you have now.

I don’t know if I explained it good enough but I hope you understand. (Not a native English speaker here…)

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Righto, I’ll give that a whirl. Bambu calibrate their filament to work with their printers, so by default the Basic PLA Black comes at a flow rate of 0.98, but I’ll see about dropping it down to 0.9 and see how we fare.

Considering you’re not a native, this meme springs to mind :joy:

Anyway!

I also think it could be this. Is there a way to make it more fluid and so it doesn’t stop-start as much?

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Would be my guess as well as they all somewhat align with the edges of text / logo.

You could give ironing a try. With dialed in settings it looks very clean

https://new.reddit.com/r/BambuLab/comments/1gnumm4/what_a_difference_10_ironing_flow_makes/

https://new.reddit.com/r/BambuLab/comments/1e7afix/ironing_is_amazing/

It would be nice if the slicer just filled in the black topsurface completely and put the letters on top. That would be a feature request I guess…

At the moment your best bet is ironing I think.

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Same issue on another print.

I’ll see what the result is like after ironing.

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Or if you can print it face down. You will transport the problem to the backside!

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You SOB that’s genius. Giving that a whirl now!

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Ironing is good for areas that are printed “without breaking the strokes”. Otherwise, ironing can make the appearance even worse, because the parts that are shiny now will become even shinier.
Try printing a Yin Yang (medal) without ironing and with ironing. I tried ironing on a Prusa MK4, but I was a bit disappointed. When I have some time, I will post some pictures here.

Very poor quality.

This was one of the reasons why I returned my X1C to the seller and am now waiting for a refund. I am afraid that the X1C is not capable of printing FAST and QUALITY at the same time. Not to mention printing with a small layer height (0.08mm).

Somebody prove me wrong, please.

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The printer can move the tool head fast, that doesn’t mean the plastic can keep up with that speed.

It’s true that, BBL profiles suck, need a lot of tweaking to get it right. Not to mention they use cheap hardware: such as cheap timing belt, cheap pulley cheap bearing… At the end of the day, BBL printer is just a giant hot glue gun that can move around along 3 axis, just like any other 3D printers.

I think you should buy Markforged Mark Two. I heard the print quality is superb, no need to fiddle with print profile and all.

Exactly.
Though MK3S/MK4 are, as to print quality, much better than X1C.
4 years on MK3S, 1 year in MK4.

I would like to hear more about print quality from other users.

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Okay, so start your own thread instead of hijacking this one…

Gestures broadly

Have you seen anything people have posted?

Honestly, after coming from a K1 which was a heaping bag of shite, Bambu are absolutely awesome and I’ll never stop bigging them up. They have their downfalls, sure, but they’re a great bit of kit compared to competitors.

Anyway, I decided to try another print with ironing turned on and it turned out subpar:

I’m just on with calibration, maybe seeing if something is out of whack after the update last night but I doubt it.

Can you check if your hotend is perpendicular? (Perpendicular in all directions to the bed).
I had bent mine and it took me ages to work out why I couldn’t get a smooth top surface.
It didn’t have to be bent very much to make a difference.

Could’ve sworn I replied to this.

Anyway, how would one go about checking if it’s perpendicular to the bed or not? I can’t visually tell if it is (it looks it?) - is there a test I can do?

Maybe using this

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