If the counts is limted, that person will know, too.
I doubt the human-machine verification will do anything to stop the creating of fake acccounts. There is one simple and effective way to clean up this big mess of cheating once and for all, which is to have all accounts antheticated, and only authenticated accounts can upload, download, and print models.
I don’t see the downside of doing this on Makerworld. The hesitation could be that this is not done by Printables, and so far despite being part of a highly innnovative bold company, Makerworld is not showing much boldness in their actions.
printables did exactly the same when it opened, everything was big at first and lots of generous offers… this will last a while till the budget for sponsorship is depleted or until they reach their goal. i might be wrong but its marketing
Ooof looks like the party came to an end. I did notice on Friday and Saturday the usual type suspects doing their low effort uploads. Must have been quiet a shock when nothing happened.
For me, creating a complex design is about the challenge of creating a complex design as well as making something cool that people might enjoy making themselves. If your only motivation for creating complex designs is profit, perhaps a site like Patreon is a better place for your designs.
Not adding much more, but i would prefer that they remove the rewards all together instead of gimping how the user downloads and prints. I download many models at once and put them in my “to do” list in my hard drive because i can’t print them all at a time. I don’t have a farm bought with coupons! I could add them to favorites, but some users take them down all the time and then they are lost. That way i have them on my hard drive ready for when i want to print them.
The problem with that is that after 5 or 6 downloads, i am not giving the creators any data for their analytics or reward points if that matters. And the opposite happens to me too, when people download my models and they don’t count because that user has already downloaded 5 or 6 models in that same day.
That’s just me and how i like to do things and i am not the “i am all here”. I am being penalized for that and the creators that i download from are too. There has to be a better way, for example, such as stated before. Make it so that accounts are verified and that’s it. But don’t say that “the normal user” won’t be affected because they are the most affected in this.
Mhhh, I personally don’t look at that way. There are limited of users with 3d printers, once printed; they won’t be printing again. All the models I expect to drop off after popularity or once everyone got one.
So I never expect my model to get the same points weekly, I’m sure it will drop to <50 after 4 weeks.
Harsh was never my intention. I thought I was actually being polite about it. Nothing wrong with wanting to profit from your designs, but if you do, this is not the website you want to upload them. Printables, Cults, Patreon and Thangs all offer the ability to earn money on your designs.
The reason I signed up for MakerWorld is because I bought an A1 combo in January and it’s my primary printer now. Points are great, but I don’t design anything with MakerWorld points in mind and I’m not about to stop designing things if the points disappear.
i think that a download limit per user is useless. If you can create an account to bot up you can create thousands of this… So instead of using like 5 account you can use 25. Instead using 1.000 accounts you can use 5.000 accounts…
I don’t think this limit will resolve the bots problem
how is this to be understood? if the model only requires a printing time of 20 minutes, then it is not a model and is not counted because it only takes 20 minutes to print this model?
can you explain this point in more detail, I don’t really understand what it means. At the moment I’m a bit unsure whether I’m doing something wrong by uploading it now, or should I wait until the new mechanism has been introduced?
Ich finde auch die Statistiken am wertvollsten. Deshalb sollen diese nicht manipuliert werden, indem reguläre Downloads zum Beispiel nicht mehr aufgrund irgendwelcher Beschränkungen gezählt werden.
Great Work!! Looking forward to the higher rewards for complex models!
Although it’ll take a little longer now to gain points, I hope in the near future there will be other methods of gaining reward points!
Only counting one print of a given model per user and counting multiple plates as one doesn’t sound like steps to prevent abuse, it sounds more like nerfing popular models. Which is fine, but I wish they’d just call it that.
These changes seem like they’ll make a worse user experience in an attempt to control excessive point earnings. It incentivizes designers to post multiple similar models, instead of grouping variations on one listing. That means users will be wading through more things they don’t care about.
I certainly understand wanting to curb excessive point farming, but these changes seem to punish the end users more than those trying to abuse the system.
