I posted a profile of a model yesterday, as I wanted a version of the model without any text, and figured id post it after making the changes as others might want the same thing.
This morning, the designer sent me message asking me to remove the profile. They said “it is not allowed to upload or remix a profile”
I know the model doesn’t allow remixes and even if it did, removing text isn’t enough to warrant a remix in my opinion, and I would still have uploaded it as an alternate profile.
Can this designer go around asking people to remove profiles on their designs? I feel like that would be against MW’s rules for this designer to ask me to do so
I concur with hottr. Modifying the model constitutes a remix, and it’s important to honor the creator’s licensing terms. Utilizing a print profile is simply an attempt to bypass restrictions imposed by MW when remixing is prohibited.
The print profile isn’t in my opinion covered by the “No remix” clause. If it was then you wouldn’t be allowed to print the model in a different filament or change any infill settings. This is just silly.
If the designer wants text baked into a model and unaltered, it should be part of the original STL.
No, that is against what the whole idea of what Makerworld is about.
You’ve done more than just alter the print profile. Looking at their model, the text is not added within the slicer, and if you remove it, it leaves a void. What you’ve done is altered the geometry via mesh boolean. While I may think it’s a weird power trip, especially on such a model which is non-proprietary. It is still their model however and should be respected. Especially since you didn’t opt to have the rewards go to the creator.
I agree with @JonRaymond that changes to the materials or settings should NOT be a cause to invoke the remix ban.
However, I agree with @hottr and @uhl that if you go beyond settings or materials and into physical changes to the model and then make those available to others DOES break the no remix clause if invoked.
Making changes to the model for your needs is allowed, but, the clause said you can’t then share those changes back out.
By not allowing remixes the designer gets to make the decision on what and how their design should be made available.
Your intentions appear to be good, but, if it was me, I would honour the wishes of the designer and remove the profile.
This this the first time I hear that one. I understand the remixe argument. But preventing user from uploading a print profile this is a bit over the top.
goldiesvinyl didn’t modify the actual model. The model is the same exact model, it’s just that on goldievinyl’s version, the text is marked to use the same color of filament as the body, rendering the text mute.
I confirmed it by exporting the STL files from the original print profile and goldiesvinyl print profile, pulled them into 3dsmax. Exact same mesh, same tri count, and all that jazz and dance.
I guess to me it depends on how the designer added the text to the model.
Was the text in the original model and the OP added a privative to remove/fill in the text? This in my opinion constitutes a change to the original model and wouldn’t be allowed.
Or was the text added to the original model using the slicer and the OP simply removed it and printed the original model. This technically isn’t a “remix” in my opinion if the original model imported into the slicer remained the same.
Not exactly, they are boolean’d together. Simply changing the color wouldn’t erase the text completely. It would still be there and still be printed as if it were it’s own part causing it to still show up, although harder to see obviously.
sorry, but if you open the file, you will notice that no changes have been made to the file. but simply, the text is still there, but set to the same color as the object. I don’t think changing a color can be defined as a remix. the project itself was not affected in the slightest
They are the same mesh. They have the same vert count, the same tri count. The text wasn’t modified other than it was re-arranged so that the text would print the same color as the body. I can even split his model in bambu studio and recolor the text back to how it was originally
Yeah, but I think the OP of the thread here wanted the accent ring without the text, so. It’s like halfway to that goal.
Regardless, @goldiesvinyl , I’d just take it down and call it a day. It’s not worth fighting over. I don’t think you’re doing anything crazy here, but I don’t think fighting with the original designer on it will do anything other than create bad feelings.
I can appreciate someone not wanting to make it easier for others to steal the credit and repost. Granted, modeling is not rocket science, and anyone who wants to do that, could still do it.
Personally, I think if I put a design on the internet… you kinda have to expect you have very little control over it from that moment on. So in all honesty, its pointless to complain, but I’d respect their wishes.
I haven’t looked it up but I’d suspect he added text by creating an imperceptible face. Or at least that’s how I do it. Simply inset or offset a face by 0.001 - 0.01mm (a depth that no printer can recreate, but all slicers and modeling software will see).That way that inset face can be painted a separate color or left alone and the printer would still print the model as if there was no height difference.
The geo wasn’t altered. It may have been combined to get a cleaner slice, but the actual geo hasn’t been altered. The STL that is exported from Bambu Studio is the same geo, either way. You can even split the model in OPs profile and get it back to the state it was in, without even having to take the model outside of the slicer.
Here’s another screenshot. This is the text, of both models, right on top of each other. It’s a 1:1 match
