They don’t have those giant printers as they don’t manufacture final products, just prototyping things they need, to create and test other stuff. Different clients, different requirements. All I can say it’s a pretty big company (Swedish/German).
But then again, there might be other companies have a deal with Prusa, it’s not excluded, just not that popular as people believe it is imo. I think in one of the Prusa’s videos there was Volkswagen that is working with Prusa. Good for them.
Heres the Exone machines that BMW uses. As an example of what i was getting at.
Voxeljet machines used by tesla
Velo3d that spacex uses
Many industries use Stratasys 3D printers, including:
Automotive: General Motors uses Stratasys 3D printing to create lightweight risers for the Chevy Bolt assembly line. Toyota is also a Stratasys partner.
Consumer products: Companies like Microsoft, PepsiCo, Unilever, Thermos, ECCO, Paragon, Valiant TMS, Haier, and Whirlpool use Stratasys 3D printing.
Dental: Dental labs use Stratasys’ DentaJet 3D printers.
Education: Stratasys 3D printers can be used for training and education.
Medical: Medical device companies use Stratasys 3D printers to create patient-specific models for pre-surgical planning and training.
Aerospace: Stratasys offers 3D printing solutions for the aerospace industry.
Motorsports: Walkinshaw Andretti United (WAU) uses a Stratasys Fortus 450mc 3D printer in its TCL Hofmann | Stratasys Smart Manufacturing Hub.
These are some of the actual innovators. Aka, patent trolls lol
" According to available information, companies like Volkswagen are known to be actively using the Prusa Pro HT90 for production, with other notable businesses including Tesla, Boeing, Honeywell, Facebook, SpaceX, and CERN, who are also reported to utilize Prusa systems for advanced applications, including printing with high-performance engineering materials enabled by the HT90."
“Intel primarily utilizes a variety of high-end 3D printers depending on their specific needs, but popular choices include those from companies like Stratasys, Markforged, and sometimes even desktop models like the Prusa i3 for prototyping and rapid fabrication due to their accuracy and material versatility”
Stratasys is by far the #1 provider for industry. The company suing Bambu for patent infringements. Prusa is by far the #1 provider for small business and farms. Random “suits” operating desktop printers doesnt exist.
To your point, which many in the 3D community often overlook, I have a customer who, as part of their product, manufactures a titanium precision component. While 3D printing isn’t yet capable of meeting their tight tolerances, they have replaced their casting and drop forging process entirely with 3D printing. They then perform final machining on the parts to achieve the required tolerances.
This transition has essentially allowed them to regain an entire shop floor, which would have otherwise required constructing a new factory on their campus. Instead, they retrofitted the older building, previously used for forging, with industrial 3D printers. They didn’t share which printers they were using, citing confidentiality and the fact that most of their work is for the military. However, they did reveal that replacing the traditional processes with 3D printing was a no-brainer. Not only did it save them millions in production costs, but it also allowed them to co-locate the machining operations within the same building, thereby reducing the foot-traffic travel time previously incurred when transporting work-in-progress (WIP) between buildings.
I own a Prusa MK2 and MK4 I specified a MK 3 for my employer. I know Prusa well.
I ordered the MK 4 kit the first day it was available and paid then waited months for it to ship without the MMU because they could not get it right.
I complained about the crazy long time I waited for the MMU to be complete on the forum and was banned. They offered a $ 50 gift card for the delay in shipping the MMU.
Recently stopped into Microcenter, paid 1/2 the cost of the MK 4 and brought home a fully built operational P1S printer that works great.
As I read the Prusa offer to order, I think that there will be many disappointments and broken promises because they may not have the final design or be able to produce it as they demonstrated with the MK4. For me, Prusa smells like vaporware. I am sure there would be more bad news on their forum if they did not ban anyone who complained.
Kengineer
So what now, are we comparing the X1-E to million dollar printers? Pasting in industry marketing material no less. Just to be sure, I am of the opinion that print farms tend to produce products of less than ideal quality. It seems to be why print farm types are so enamored with fuzzy skin. They think it hides the ugliness and imperfections. I do not live in the 3D printing community and find a great deal of the issues that community fusses over to be rather low brow. Prusa, in particular, and its base of supporters comes off as rather cultish, with a supremacist-like mindset. It kind off reminds me of Harley Davidson. As the joke goes, What do you do if you want to learn how to repair motorcycles? Buy a Harley.
However I do live in the engineering design community. In the old days, we would hand drawings to a machinist. Eventually we were able to provide design files that the machinist dropped into his software to program his machine. Now, with a couple of keystrokes and mouse clicks, we can send a file to the 3D printer sitting on the table next to our desk and in a few hours have working prototypes. We don’t want to have to play with our printers. They should work as tools as much as something like an oscilloscope just works, without having to fiddle with its internal workings all the time.
Aesthetics, might not be your thing but they matter to others. Industrial design, is the art of making products look pretty. Industrial design also applies to industrial and commercial products. There is even the argument to be made that taking the time to make a product look as nice as it can, tends to coincide with a closer look at the details and often results in a better product. A Prusa sitting in one’s office looks rather ugly and a bit tacky. Like it belongs in a shop, not in an office. It was one of the things that kept Apple afloat in the early years. A Macintosh looked fashionable sitting on a designer’s desk, or on an executive’s desk, whereas PC clones tended to look rather uninspiring.
From what I hear, Prusa has something rather profound in common with Harley Davidson. They are loud, perhaps the loudest 3D printers on the market. By comparison, one of the beauties of Bambu Lab 3D printers is that they are quiet. Very quiet. The noise from the HVAC, or from the landscape workers outside, is more noticeable, more distracting. Many a time I have had to check to see if a printer was still working, it was being so quiet. As a desktop prototyping machine in an engineering design environment, in an office space, the Bambu Lab printers are perfect. They are quiet, they are fashionable, and they are highly reliable. It has been a year, and with nearly daily prints, all that I have had to do is replace filament and occasionally wipe down and grease the rails. No problems no fuss. With every new update my Bambu Lab printers tend to work just a little bit better with higher quality. I anxiously await Bambu Lab’s next offering as I am certain that it will not disappoint.
you need to tell that to my x1c 
i don’t think she knows that she’s supposed to be quiet hahah
How long was it between the XL announcement and the first shipping?
Think it took them like a year and a half between announcement and first shipments.
Yup, that appears correct. Announced November 2021 and started shipping March 2023.
How long was it between the bambu v2 teaser and release? nobody knows, but its been pushed back twice. How long have people been begging for it? Couple years. I doubt it will have a 5 head tool changer also.
Almost forgot. Core one went on sale the same day it was announced. Didnt even see a teaser
We can go back to the guy in the 3 piece suit operating the dremel printer if you want. I was just keeping the conversation realistic. I was also responding to another person with some of that. Read the whole thing and youll see i covered prusa toward the bottom. Even the i3 being used by Intel.
Which corporate environment is buying bambu printers from dealers that service them? Which company services and leases the X1e? I tried to respond to you, but seems like you made up a special situation that doesng exist. This is why I addressed printers that do have service contracts and lease agreements.
“While there isn’t readily available information on specific large companies publicly stating they use Bambu Lab printers”
Outside this forum, most people think bambu bros are the elitists. Type of people that only have 1 brand. Like apple folk. Usually because that was their 1st and only brand ever. I own a few bambus and 8 ams units btw. 0 prusas. In fact, I could have bought an XL but chose a ratrig and voron instead. Prusa bros are usually people that have been in the hobby longer than a year or 2, from what ive seen. So, when people try and. change history, they like to call out the bs
I think we see the problem here
If you go to Bambu Lab’s Maker Supply and select printers and then select the X1-E, you do not find the usual pricing and ordering information but rather you are directed to a local dealer. Dealers that tend to sell filaments that are beyond what Amazon sells. That is because that is the way business is done. The X1-E has been marketed to engineers and scientists. It has never been marketed as a production machine. It is the P1P that has been specifically designed and marketed as a production machine. That is why its screen is less than consumer friendly.
Ignorantly joking about a 3 piece and a Dremel printer allows one to dismissively miss the point. No one runs a company by doing the work. They hire others to do the work, including independent authorized dealers.
Not ignorant. Just going off things you originally posted. We can walk it all back 1 at a time.
But which seller offers service contracts and lease agreements?
The most i see is this from matterhackers. I think the service is like $200 snd most likely directs you to bambu wiki.
" With Launchpad, we provide everything needed for your first completed print on your new X1-Series 3D printer (like the Bambu Lab X1-Carbon and X1E). There is a QR code on the 3D printer packaging that takes you to a series of videos that include a guided setup and calibration process to get you up and running"
I asked a question. I did not ask for a smart answer.
No offense, but that sounds like the fanboyism that you despise so much.
You’re correct that it went on sale. It’s also not shipping for 2 months. Nothing wrong with that, unless that date slips.
I just “shopped” it. It’s an interesting machine, as it should be. I see Prusa watched what the market has done and built on it, a little. There are a few reasons I won’t buy it.
First and foremost isn’t related to the machine. It’s the shipping. At $160-$140 I’d quickly pass. Of course corporate and print farms may not blink at that. I realize where it’s coming from etc, just not willing to pay nearly a 10th of the price for shipping. We can argue if the shipping cost is built into “free shipping” later.
The only real part of the machine I would like to have is the extruder. I’ve seen it working on a Mk4 and really like it, cause it’s cool and it works. To be fair though I haven’t had any issues with the BL extruder either, but it’s just not as sexy as that Nextruder.
The demographic it seems to be aimed at are the diehard Prusa buyers that will plunk down money for anything they put out, and print farms. Nothing wrong with that at all. At home it’s compact size may matter but then becomes irrelevant when/if a MMU is added.
Really, in reading through the Marketing Departments pitch, seems like it really is banking more on it’s name than anything really innovative or new. Nothing aside from that extruder really set’s it apart from the current market.
Easy setup, active heating, stiff frame, tech material handling, and enclosed build have all been done. Some better, some worse.
For me, and I want to stress that it’s for me, there is nothing here that warrants $1200 and another $160 to get here. It’s just another Core XY. Other manufacturers will bring new features to market, and it takes Prusa forever to start implementing them. However I have liked that they offer an upgrade path for the Mk series. Hopefully that will be someething offered to buyers of this in the future.
I’m not a fanboy. Personally tossing internet toughboy words to defend a corporate enity that could care less if I live or die after they get my money is pointless and just plain stupid.
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk, referestments are in your kitchen and I hope you have a pleasent day.
Sorry, assumed you were fanboying it up since what you asked can be googled and you asked about the xl instead of core one. I apologize for making assumptions.
Not sure what country you live in but printed solid will have them a little after the beginning of the year. so they say. Filaments and other machines will or are being built in the U.S.
I see alot of people here saying they will buy whatever bambu releases.
Things that set it aside. Can print pla with the door closed and lid on because of chamber temp control also keeping temps below a setpoint. Exhaust fans are powerful enough to not need an inline fan for external ducting. Plastic parts are made of PC-CF, Mk4s can be upgraded to it. its easily moddable, has good support, comes as a kit for $250 less, Doesnt poop, door opens all the way and can be reversed, 60lbs of solid steal construction, tight chamber spacing for fast heat up, will be backwards compatable for probably a decade, chambers to hold filament/plates/tools, etc. Runs klipper
With the exclusion areas of the bambu, they are nearly the same build volume. Yet to be proven but it should also be faster than bambu
It’s all good. Thank you for understanding.
I could have googled that. Sometimes I don’t engage my brain.
Did it show you an option in that range? The cheapest it showed me to Florida was $392.
Daaamn. I wont order one until printed solid has them. That is crazy. I wonder how much of that is Vat
Thats my plan. If PrintedSolid lists them and the base price is mysteriously $390 more than the Prusa site I’m going to be mad lol.
