Hello!
I have some of my designs cutomizables. I think this is more easy to be useful to the community (i.e. corner protections that’s only useful if meets the size of your “corner”).
But I think that the use of the Customizable button don’t generate points for downloading.
Does anyone know if this is correct?
TIA (sorry for my bad english. It’s not my native language)
Yes, it does, and according to makerworld, they can now even track the prints.
Most of my designs are parametric designs, and I had no problem getting the downloads.
I think there is still a limit of 2 downloads per user/model, and users need to download the generated file
MW only counts one print/download per model per user who performed it. If a user prints or downloads your model more than once, only the first is counted.
Only 5 prints/downloads are counted by a user each day. If the user printed your model after printing or downloading 5 others, yours will not be counted.
Thanks for clarifying that. That sucks!!! What is the purpose of this limitation?
This turned out far longer than I planned, get a drink and strap in. It is history time!
It was added as one of the many limitations included in the revised point system.
The activity should be included in the analytics, but, as to points, a large number of downloads and prints are simply never included in the numbers that go towards point generation.
There is logic in it (from the MW perspective), the bad actors” (as I call them), were running download farms where they would upload a tiny model and then download it repeatedly all day, every day. Each one triggering a value to be counted in the points system.
The “good actors” you and I, would print a couple of things and get two downloads, they would get hundreds in the same day.
Sometime ago, even failed prints were counted, so they could start huge prints, cancel them and restart the process. This was the same time as a model with 20 plates would count 20 prints/downloads even if only one was started and never finished.
Some popular models at the time were only popular because of this. They were large with lots of plates, sometimes even providing excellent models, but, their numbers and popularity were inflated by the “bad actors” printing, stopping and repeating those models.
In reality, MW couldn’t sustain handing out points to the “bad actors” indefinitely and had to look for ways to limit their exposure. They introduced many different caps to make it inefficient for them to profit from trying to game the system. They still do game the system, it just costs MW significantly less to deal with it.
As a consequence the decent people, the ones who added to the community with designs or who benefited from the community by printing work provided were hit and hit hard.
The initial points model made the early adopters very rich in the sense of turning points into gift cards which in turn was converted into filament, spares and printers.
All of that is still possible, it just takes much longer and you need a decent number of models or one or two extremely successful ones.
It is possible to but a printer with the points you earn, I have. It just takes way longer.
I was annoyed when the old system went and the new, significantly less beneficial system took over. I had only just started to get a little bit of traction with my models and suddenly the points I was earning had more than halved over night. I wanted a piece of the richer pie, it was full of butter and sugar. Now my pie was tart and sour.
In reality though, something had to give. If it didn’t, the whole system would collapse under the weight of the theft. As that is what it was fraud resulting in theft. They stole from MW and as a result, they stole from the rest of us.
This is part of the reason a dedicated few of us report any bad actions by users, to stop the next “bad actors” before they start.
I improved my model presentation ps, I improved the models I provided and I found a few models that turns out I am good at making that my followers really love. I have gained some success and that has turned into points.
Having a few of my models in the featured collections and one featured has been great. I do pretty well now. I have gained a significant for free. A lot of hard work got me here though.
I can only wonder how those who are far more successful than I aim are doing.
I imagine they are pretending they are Scrooge McDuck diving into their piles of free filament.
I couldn’t have said it better. Went through this exact same timeline. When they cut off the flow of butter and sugar earlier this year, that was a huge bummer and my motivation balloon was popped. It’s not that I didn’t enjoy making stuff and sharing it with others for free, but when you know how much filament gets sold because of your model and that isn’t reciprocated, it indeed left a sour taste and attitude for awhile. But Bambu didn’t wait long and came through with a fair system to reward those that drive their filament and machine sales. The boost system has been great and has motivated me to spend more time making sure everything is as good as it can be for the user, taking better photos and writing better descriptions. Following up on comments and messages. I’m still a better idea guy than I am a 3D modeler, but the motivation level to grow and improve my skills and presentation has been restored.
Good explanation! One think that would be very satisfying for me is to see a report of the real download/print numbers separated for them download/print events that generated points.
Example:
Real downloads/prints: 150/79
Point generating download/prints: 10/5
Pats self in back. I’m great me.
You mean like those game shows (Bullseye for British audiences) that say “look what you could’ve won” to the losers.
I like honesty in data, without it, it is meaningless.