User uses one of my models, with two projects labeled exclusive, one of which participates in a contest and having only cut it! Also changing the license. My model is this Free detailed skull 3d model for 3d printers freehttps://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-free-detailed-skull-93540 if you download the stl you will see that it is superimposable to this model https://makerworld.com/en/models/713785 even the details of the missing tooth, which I had not inserted as a signature and to make the model more realistic when it was designed for a project on pirates.
This model in the contest is a remix and is not even an exclusive model. I had also posted this model in the form of a keychain on MW, but I did not assign exclusivity precisely because I had already published it in 2019 elsewhere
EDIT: After having pointed out the matter to the user, the user as if nothing had happened declared that he had taken the model from printable because it was free!!! Among other things, the printable user at least inserted the source of the model.
I pointed out to him that even if he had taken it from printable and not from my original file, he would still have had to publish the model as a remix and not as ORIGINAL and EXCLUSIVE!
This model had over 2000 downloads in the mask contest with exclusive points! The user did nothing but delete the model, but in this way he kept the exclusive points and the points earned up to now despite me having reported it to MW (he intervened first, keeping all the points earned fraudulently)
I find all this very incorrect and @makerworld should take action against this user who also blocked me when I pointed out to him that he was not respecting the license and to whom I had told him that he could use the model without any worries by inserting the source.
F&H | Published - MakerWorld This is the user and at this point I doubt that some of his models are exclusive. If you find your models, report it
Thanks for letting us know. If his model is removed from the Exclusive Program, all of the Exclusive Points he earned with this model will be deducted.
If we determine that his models are not his original work, the models will be removed and he will be ineligible to enter the Exclusive Program in the future.
Thanks
The user removed the model himself, but by removing it before reporting, he was left with all the points with over 2000 downloads. In private messages he himself states that he took the model elsewhere. In the meantime he has accumulated a lot of points
Donât expect MakerWorld to do anything about it really. I have flagged a remix of the well-known âcute mini octopusâ yesterday and this morning I got this reaction:
Even the logo of the original creator is still in the remix and it is not listed as a remix. I am baffled (but not surprised) about this approach. I have previously successfully flagged blatant copies of my models from Printables on MW, but it seems that if you make a (minor) tweak to an original model MW doesnât regard it as a remix but as an âOriginal Modelâ.
This does mean of course that by MakerWorld standards, your âExclusiveâ models may also be copied, slightly tweaked and uploaded elsewhere. Because from that point onwards it is an original design.
I really hope we can get back to the âcommunity feelâ of 3D printing without this âExclusivityâ nonsense where everybody was free to share wherever they wanted without the incentive to lie about remixes. It was ok that the original uploader removed the model, but he could also have ignored your message and I wonder if MW would have done anything to protect your IP
Iâve made a guide on using cloudcompare to compare âremixesâ to originals: Point farming profiles - #63 by Johnny_Bit I think itâs a bit overkill, but I havenât had a single report rejected where I took time to share 1 or 2 screenshots from cloudcompare proving Iâm right
Once I need it for one of my own models I will surely invest some time into that. But luckily my models are mostly not âdecorativeâ and therefore less likely to be remixed. I wonder though how low-poly versions fare in CloudCompare like the remix I pointed out in this post:
Update, it has been removed after I posted it on this forum and have put in another copyright claim with a bit more info. Not sure which one of the two did the trick. Still feel bad about copyright striking models for being âexclusiveâ while being a non-reported remix when they are designs of others. But on the other hand, just donât steal designs! Most community-driven designers will use a CC license, donât exploit that, build upon it and share in the required way. Even if âExclusivityâ can give you a couple of cents for giving your share rights away
Yes, I know, because that one was a blatant copy. But in the end, it is futile. Take that mini octopus for example, just search octopus and set filters to only show exclusive models:
All these models are likely to be remixes of the original mini octopus. All of them!!! That is just absurd. And all of them are âExclusiveâ and therefore should be original designs by MW requirements. Should I report all of them? Ainât got time for that, and that is what most creators of popular models think sadly. If they would just say it is a remix and give appropriate attribution everything would be ok, nice and lovely. What a community would that be!
Most of these models were previously most likely listed as a remix with a CC license and attribution. But all hail MW and get a few bucks in exchange for the soul of the 3D printing community. Sorry⌠Let myself go a bit haha. End of rant (for now)
It should be really nice if something like CloudCompare would be integrated in MakerWorld where it becomes almost impossible to steal designs on this scale. A way to give every model a digital âfingerprintâ and compare those to new uploads.
On topic of comparing models I think Thangs has integrated geometry checker and helps with that.
Yep. Itâs on @MakerWorld to properly enforce originality.
Ainât nobody got time for that. I mentioned that elsewhere but I donât recommend being a âhall monitorâ or wasting your time. Do you see some blatant rule violation and you have time to spare? Then report. Otherwise thereâs nothing in it for you. As for reports being rejected or not acted upon? Then just move on and not let that affect you.
The bad move was allowing CC-licences to convert to standard licence and enter EMP, that allowed flood of exclusives that werenât. And all those people are still risking all their points (unless they just delete the models) for mere 25% point gain⌠Ah, how easy it is to buy someoneâs integrity⌠This is also another proof that the way of joining EMP is absolutely flawed and that @MakerWorld should fix the program. Iâd be for starting over from scratch, but it seems that âfixing on the goâ is the approach.
I cannot enroll because itâs a remix. Easy fix: just say itâs not a remix, MW doesnât care
Now I canât enroll because I like my models to be shareable, remixable and available on other platforms and not only Bambu printers Easy fix: You want that money right? Money? Here kitty kitty, come get it.
OOH money bye bye CC and integrity
Sorry, there I went again⌠Please accept my apologies
I get the exclusive program. Bambu wants to outperform other sites and ideally only make Bambu compatible 3mfâs available (you also get extra points for that). I have a Bambu (which I got for free, since they are giving them away all the time) but also other printers. And I get that goal of Bambu and how the exclusive program fuels this, but I am just sad to see what this does for the community. I used to share models for others to enjoy, to be tinkered with, to be available for everybody. Not just one brand. Now we share models to help build a corporate monopoly strategy and we are all thanking them for it.
Aahh man⌠Again a rant. Why canât I just be happy?
(I am happy, I promise, just a bit annoyed)
The one you printed is not the one I flagged but it could also be a âstolenâ design. Depends on whether they gave appropriate attribution and listed it as a remix (in which case it would be totally fine).
bye bye CC and integrity