That was the most I’d allow myself to be a part of… it’s okay though. As most have said just never upgrade firmware.
As dr Tao said “it’s taken competition 2 years to catch up, that’s good”
So luckily Bambu as of now doesn’t have anything you can’t find or get from somewhere else. 
I mean sure if you want to go grab something cheaper thats probably going to be abandoned within 6 months unless its a prusa
You both (@Neiljt @Cypherous) are framing your argument in the guise of “security”, when it has been demonstrably proven this update does very little to increase security.
You have even admitted it’s about proprietary control.
So, then you turn to the “everyone else is doing it” argument.
Just because “they can” doesn’t mean they should.
Please stop trolling the users that don’t like where this going.
Bambu Lab is not going to send you a free AMS for your efforts or loyalty.
I’m bowing out now, as I don’t like feeding trolls. 
The topic can be spoken about for eternity but one thing that’s important to remember is Bambu lab never did it first. They made it “affordable”…
Nothing wrong with that but to say there’s only 2 players with support is asinine.
Your convoluted logic is just …
The term ‘convoluted reasoning’ refers to logic that follows unnecessary detours and tangents to arrive at a conclusion. On its own, ‘convoluted’ generally refers to anything that is excessively complex and occasionally devious.
As i recall the X1C hack was also patched , weird isnt it ?
Nobody is saying that THIS implementation isn’t perfect, that sadly doesn’t change what their goal is and why they are doing this, nobody gets security perfect on the first attempt, and you already know this, this is an iterative process
So the ones trying to “frame it” are the people who try to prove that clearly this isn’t about security because its not 100% secure on the first attempt
Its about controlling access to their ecosystem yes, like literally everyone and everything that ever runs anything as a service, its the same as the wifi password on your router, its there to prevent things you don’t want getting access to your network
This is the same thing at a larger scale and its the same thing literally everyone does
So you think that they shouldn’t secure their network against disruption? i mean by that logic you shouldn’t have a password on your wifi because it stops your neighbours from using your internet and you shouldn’t have locks on your front door because that stops people from entering your house
There are a number of things that we do because we have to in order to try make things more secure
Disagreeing with you and proving why it needs to happen isn’t trolling by any stretch of the word sadly
No what they did was make it accessible to people who are less tech savvy, the same way apple has done with all its products for literal decades at this point
They are by no means the cheapest out there and they never really were, what they had was a product that “just worked”
There pretty much are only 2 major players, yes there are a bunch of smaller players out there and there are some that fill a niche that the others aren’t in, but for the most part none of them other than prusa really compare in terms of scale or reliability for mass adoption
I’m not updating, but I did see a “developer mode” which supposedly allows “access” has anyone actually tried that, or is that just community washing attempt?
This update brick my x1c 
Before print job start: HMS error: MQTT command verification failed.
@icegodd In the 01.08.05.00 release note. It say’s. Quote “Downgrade firmware to a previous version if needed” Unquote.
I wonder just how many versions you can go back to?
One thing that one can do to show Bambu that you don’t want/like the new Authorization Control firmware is simply not to install it.
Bambu should be able to get a running count of downloaded and installed new firmware and compare the number to existing machines. This will indicate the number of people who don’t want it.
Personally, I would LOVE it all the 3D printer manufacturers, open-source developers (klipper, Marlin, etc.) would sit down together and work out a standardized secure protocol (using proven/existing security algorithms) to send prints to the printer either via the cloud or local network.
Microsoft is finally getting around to it with their new universal printer drivers (yea… I know it’s a work in progress. But it’s at least being work on). Why not do the same for 3D printers? Heck, maybe reach out and work with Microsoft, Apple, Linux developers and create universal 3D printer driver specification consortium? We are still in the infancy of 3D printers, staring now would go a long way.
I hate to tell you this but the previous version did not detect cover falling off either.
It will, but that number is not going to be as big as you think, especially once it rolls out to the P and A series
And even then, if security is the goal as they claim, it literally won’t matter what the end user wants
It is not more secure though, bambu connect does the same thing as the network plugin, the diffrence is the network plugin is an api, bambu connect is a software of its own. If they wanted security the would of made bambu studio users use bambu connect.
It will do the same basic job yes, it mostly exists for 3rd party tools rather than first party
They can already roll the changes in bambu studio though, anything they add is already closed source anyway, difference is the plugin won’t be available for 3rd party software they don’t have any control over
Do you actually read what you reply to before hitting submit?
Where in @Johnny_Bit’s post does he state that he does not value security? Aren’t you inserting your own opinion without evidence?
The recurring issue you seem to ignore is choice—specifically, the removal of choice after purchase. If someone wants to leave their car unlocked on a city street, that’s their decision. Likewise, if someone owns an IoT-capable device but chooses not to connect it to the Internet, does a company have the right to change the terms of ownership after the sale? Some of my home appliances offer this option, and I only bought them after being assured it was optional, not mandatory.
By your analogy, you align yourself with tech giants that undermine ownership rights. Can you not see this is why you’re being called out, not just by me, but by others in this forum?
Right, but there was no “choice” listed at point of sale, this is the part people really really really don’t seem to be able to accept properly
It was only ever advertised as working with bambu software inside the bambu ecosystem, yes due to the insecure MQTT interface being exposed you “could” use other things with it, however these were not ever used as selling points by bambu themselves
They have since decided to lock down the insecure MQTT interface they use, which has the side effect that it might prevent other unauthorised 3rd party software and hardware from functioning, something that was never guaranteed in the first place, hell when BTT even announced the panda touch bambu reached out to them and told them it might get blocked in a future update, before BTT even started shipping units to users, BTT even warned its users of this being the case
It is, but they then essentially forfeit their rights if someone comes and steals it or anything from inside it, and you’re free to leave the MQTT exposed on the printer, but by doing such you forfeit access to the cloud and bambu, much like the police and insurance company in the above scenario, will leave you to fend for yourself
Bambu hasn’t changed the terms of ownership though, you only ever owned the hardware, you never owned the software and you will continue to own the hardware, however if you want to access the bambu cloud services you’ll need to be running an up to date version of their software, just as you do with games consoles, certain apps on phones, online only games on PC etc
You still own the device you’re using but without the updates you aren’t able to access those additional services
They aren’t undermining anything though, you’re free to not update and you’re free to keep using the MQTT interface, but you can’t expect them to shoulder the burden of you deciding you want to leave your device in an insecure state nor should the be required to let you access their private services in said state
Call me out all you want, it doesn’t bother me in the slightest and it doesn’t change the facts of the matter
Indeed , but, I think that is due to incompetence. Being grossly incompetent and pig headed about it is what most concerns me with this authorisation fiasco. I guess I will be sticking with the current X1 firmware until the machine is worn out.
It is annoying that I will have to spend my makerworld points on lots of expensive Bambu filament that I don’t really want rather than on a next generation printer.
To use your terms, “Hate to break it to you” but you’re a lost cause.
Or… fess up—you’re either an implant posting on this forum on behalf of Bambu or, perhaps more accurately, one of the folks from the evil empire who actually endorses screwing the customer. Which one is it? 
Either way, you won’t be making any friends or influencing many people in this community.
In case you missed it, Bambu rarely visits these forums, so it’s up to us little elves to support each other. I’m wagering that such altruism isn’t part of your daily bread—but now it’s me inferring without direct evidence, isn’t it? Just working off the tone and posture of your posts in this thread.
Oh, is this a step in getting ready for the new printer release the H2D? Something that the printer is shipping with that you are forcing on the X1C users first your premium machine buying customers?
I’m a X1C customer ONLY because I saw hope with Bambu when it allowed 3rd party firmware on it’s systems the X1Plus. Now I’m seeing you go in the opposite direction, making me pause at any more machine purchases due to your lack of embracing the open source which, “This IS the way” forward for any company I’m backing.