Sooner or later there’s going to be a reason, you’ll want to upgrade to get support for a new filament would be one possibility. Wanting to take advantage of some new Bambu Studio feature or improvement would be another (assuming eventually they’ll require the new firmware to work with a new version of the slicer). Not upgrading firmware is really only a viable option for the most determined.
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I don’t use BStudio…just OrcaSlicer. Way better, more options, more print controls. As for new filaments, don’t pop-up that many every year, and when they do pop-up, i do wait for a while to learn how it worked out for those using them… But from my personal perspective, as long as I can keep printing PETG, ASA, ABS and TPU, with the occasional PLA (now and then), I really don’t need new filaments, or change my firmware/software… So, the answer is no.
Personally, I don’t need (or want) for my prints to have to go to someone else’s computer (cloud) half a
way around the world, to sent the print file back to my printer, when all this can be done in a straight, simpler and secured process, that is from my pc to my printer through my LAN.
That way, I’m not exposed to, or dependent on Bambu’s cloud existence and functionality for my printer to print.
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I suggest we stop discussing the security narrative as this is clearly not a security topic. It’s just a trap to confuse the discussion.
In my view, the solution would be simple. Just open source everything, the firmware, the connect software, everything. Then anyone can adapt the software to their needs, remove any “security” feature or introduce alternative features. Having proprietary software as part of the chain does create vendor lock-in, removes interpretability and reduces digital sovereignty.
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I meant to say “removes interoperability”
Not from you sure, but given you sold the machines the new owners might not feel the same way, which would mean no actual change in the number of customers
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Ok, and thats literally solved by just not updating and sticking your machine in LAN mode, not sure its considered a contentious point when it already had a solution, if you don’t want to use the cloud you don’t have to, in terms of features the current crop are probably about as feature complete as they are going to get any anything new will be slicer improvements, so the issue resolves itself
Again, not updating and using LAN mode does exactly this, so you have exactly what you want in that regard
So we’re 2 for 2 on fixes that can already be done by the user
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Yeah never happening, its a cute dream but entirely unrealistic
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Again, so confidently bullshitting
Uh, no:-
It’s a farm, I run prints in the most efficient way possible meaning a printer is running around 22-23 hours a day, with an hours downtime in the work day for full maintenance, these printers would have been sold for parts anyway within the next 6 months and replaced, I’m not replacing them anymore.
The new owners bought them for parts, they had 10,000 hours on them and they sell the parts on ebay, the only person losing out here is Bambu Lab out of their own doing
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Hardly, there is no way you can guarantee that there won’t be a new customer as a result of your sale, doesn’t matter if they were sold as parts or not, the fact that they are being advertised is good enough for them to potentially end up with new customers out of it, meaning your sale really doesn’t do as much as you think, and there are new customers buying in to the ecosystem constantly, so like i said, no real net change in the number of customers
Sure you sold them, but i guarantee atleast 1 or more person probably picked up a printer as you were walking out the door
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Go back and read my posts, I clearly say repeat custom. You even quoted it. They have lost a customer.
I don’t care what magical world you’re living in where in business a hypothetical new customer somehow balances out the books, I’m not returning, it’s a net negative.
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I’m sorry but I just can’t get behind that. Sure, many companies have screwed stuff up in the name of security, but just because they say that doesn’t make it true.
Further more, user account control is a different beast all together. It was Microsoft’s attempt at implementing sudo as at the time admins were giving everyone and anyone local admin permissions. It was horrible, but the difference is that UAC could be TURNED OFF completely. And still could as of win 10 (I don’t use Windows anymore so can’t speak to win 11).
The fact of the matter is, wether we like it or not; bambu has made the decision to excise a portion of their community for some unknown gain in the name of security. And frankly I’m done with bambu, I will print my x1c into the ground and when it dies I will go elsewhere and never look back.
I won’t stand for this in my paper printers (looking at you HP), so I definitely won’t stand for it in a much more expensive 3d printer.
It’s time we start standing up for user ownership again.
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Folks, as of this post, there are 60 posts in this topic, and Cypherous has 25 of them—most of which are argumentative, unhelpful, and contrarian.
It’s clear that this individual engages in contrarian arguments for the sake of argument rather than contributing constructively. This kind of behavior derails discussion and adds nothing of value.
Let’s stop giving this individual attention that will only feed their appetite for controversy and refocus on constructive discussion.
There are a lot of great ideas shared by members here, but they’re getting lost in endless back-and-forth. Healthy debate is valuable, but this thread has become unproductive.
This community thrives on constructive discussion and idea-sharing. Let’s move past this distraction and get back to what we do best.
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This forum seems to attract them.
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I’m not bowing down to anyone, but I’m old enough (and wise enough) to know when (& how) to pick my fights … definitely not worth the time or effort to fight with the trolls…
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I’ll go for this one more
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…or this one…
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Sure, but the net number of customers is unlikely to go down, all it means is the line doesn’t go up as fast
So, lets say we gained 2 customers a day on average, you leaving means we have 1 leaving and 2 joining, not sure what you were taught ini school but 2 - 1 is still 1 last i checked, which is above zero ergo not a net negative overall, sure you’re technically going to be a -1 to returning customers, but in the grand scheme of things, sadly not even a blip
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Yes, the important caveat being, it has to be connected to the internet in order to do this, so your offline printer, will never search for updates because it has no connection to the update server
Unless bambu has somehow cracked quantum entanglement that is, always technically possible