Lol if that’s the case they wouldn’t remove the only print profile when the model page already has multiple pictures. Taking the print profile down, only makes it harder for those non technical users.
Should have included one of those pictures in the print profile?
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That’s irrelevant to the point u brought up, if they are so focused on user experience they would either remove the model since it could be untested, or let the user add a picture before it’s taken down.
Unfortunately Bambu looks to be the type that cannot fathom grey in their black and white world.
Bambu has the experience they’re trying to tailor, and the rules that go along with it. I follow those rules along with many other designers 
It’s not complicated or difficult.
Malc has 687 released models currently, all with photos, print profile photos. And yeah. I mean, if he can do it, I don’t see why we can’t.
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But… Malc is an outlier. How do we know he’s not trying to destroy the world one print at a time?
That Malc bloke sounds like a great person, almost god-like.
Some people say he is a cripple and dying and still does all that. He can also walk on water I believe.
I lay in bed due to illness, not outside though, I haven’t been able to leave my house for just shy of 5 years.
I also don’t lie outside for similar reasons.
Shush! Don’t tell them!
My thoughts as a perpetual designer and uploader.
If you wish to add a print profile to your model, you must prove the print can be achieved. That is true for a small cube as it is for a large and very detailed model with all settings changed.
It is the price we pay to have the opportunity for rewards and to be honest with those who would waste their filament, the users we share our models with.
The early days of MW were replete with models that couldn’t be printed because people were gaming the system for rewards they didn’t earn.
We are in a better place now, where 99% of all models are expected to print without fault, even those the users say failed because they didn’t bother (or know) they needed to clean the build plate!
If you do not care about the reward, follow the advice of so many here, then share the file offline and do not upload it.
You could always consider creating a parametric version so users can make their changes as they see fit, that is always an option.
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Given the statement you need to tick off when adding a print profile
if I am lucky enough to be in that position at some point, I would simply have the 3mf file with the modified form in the description and once someone uploads a photo of it in the comments, would use that when adding the profile (with acknowledgement in the profile description). Thus all boxes are ticked IMO… it has been printed, the printed form has be photographed to prove it worked, you’ve not had to “waste” any filament on a print you don’t want, and someone using that profile knows it works. edit: Nope, nada, against MW rules. … so if it prints successfully, ask that they also add a print profile and photo themselves. Alternative being to DM the modified model to the person, and ask them to upload the modified print as a profile once they have printed it, and to make sure this box is ticked when they publish it. This may be the better option, as if you do your own profile, there is a chance the settings don’t match what they actually used, unless they just opened it and pressed “send to printer” 
Unfortunately not.
The rules forbid it.
You cannot use an image you didn’t take of your print profile being successfully used to prove it works.
The onus is on the Print Profile designer to demonstrate their profile can generate a successful print.
That is the price of entry so to speak.
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Fair enough… thanks for pointing that out. Meaning that the second method is the only one possible under the rules as they currently are. Which to be honest is the better anyway as the onus is on the person who printed it to provide both the profile and photo.
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I totally get where you guys are coming from and not wanting to print out every model. I guess for me I like to print out each thing to make sure it works and to ensure l like the results. There have been a number of times where I made a small tweak to something and after printing it I realized it wouldn’t work anymore. I wouldn’t have caught it if I hadn’t printed it first.
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No one attested that they were difficult, but they could easily improve the UI to make it easier. However if they leave up the model with no real photos and only remove the print profile, how exactly are they protecting the user? The off chance the model is so bad the slicer catches it?
The rule is needlessly rigid, they could easily make small tweaks and do much better at achieving their (your implied) goal.
It also would be trivial for the auto validator to use image recognition to catch models/Penny profiles at the time of upload. The fact they only do the removal when a $40 gift card has been redeemed, only furthers the point that they are not really concerned at catching models that are unprintable. They also do not respond to reports that existing models are literally breaking people’s hot ends. So if they’re not responding to reports from users a problematic prints, whats the point?
They leave the model so that a tech savvy person can make the profile for it in case designer doesnt want to.
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I had no idea… I’ve been texting back and forth with Makerworld since yesterday and they didn’t say a word about this, even though i mentioned to ask people for their pictures. Pfff… You just saved me a huge headache as I had already written the corresponding text and was about to send it to several users.
It’s not about “printing a model” it’s about unnecessarily wasting time and money. I have had a bunch of user-requests lately and until now I happily altered my design and uploaded it. (always checking in the Slicer beforehand) But as for how it is right now, I’ll need to print these models myself, even though I don’t need them, for the solely purpose of taking a picture, and that’s a different story. I’ll probably just stop altering designs for people - which is a shame, but it’s just not worth the time and effort for what I get in return.
I will now need to “put in private” many models and alterations as I don’t have pictures and fear they might take down even more.
For my Build-plate-holder for example, I designed the A1M to P1S Stacker, then I thought of doing a Flat Cover, then a Tray Cover, then just the Stacker to stack multiple units on each other (all this for the A1M and P1S Build plate holder) All these alterations base on the same Frame and are easily printed (checked in Slicer) but I don’t have any of those designs myself as I don’t need them.
I’ll be wasting at least one roll of filament just for those in order to take a picture. And then what? I don’t need them… This is a nightmare.
I should have known… but well… it doesn’t matter now.
It is always worth checking the model page [Report] button and read the model & profile reasons.
These can often be the most concise location for the current rules.
I would check often as they change.
Another one to look out for is the new requirement to have a photo as the main image, no more renders or AI images can take this spot.
I long campaigned for this one.
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That’s a perfectly valid reason.
I do think you can make it a little easier on yourself though.
I’m going to be honest with you, there’s a lot going on here. For me, it’s too much! It’s confusing. I feel like I would have to do homework to start to even know what to do.
I think you need to retire that v1 profile completely. Move it to raw if you want to keep a copy around, but it feels like, why would I want v1 when there’s a v2 or v3? Why don’t we have just v3? v3 implies that it’s version 3, so why do we want version 2 when there’s version 3?
More importantly, I think all the other stuff you could group under one print profile and call it something like “Extras” Or “variations” or “mods”. That way you’re setting yourself up for one picture instead of 7.
Basically, my thought/idea is consolidate, make the job easier on yourself. You know, for the picture for the extras, it could be the regular holder, plus one or two of the extras. You’re illustrating that they’re extras! Showing a little photo proof, but not setting it up so you have to specifically print every single thing within.
I recognize the reality that it’s not always practical to print everything when part of a larger set of a proven design. Especially modular stuff where so much is built off the same base, so can be proven effective. There are ways to work within the system and the rules though that I think can ease that burden.
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Bambu will delete the profiles you do this on when you try to redeem a gift card.
I’ve done this before and it’s been fine.
I don’t know what to tell you. It’s an imperfect world. I’m just living in it and trying to navigate it the same as anyone else. I’m sorry you had a bad time.
I see two parts to the issue. There’s rules we have to work within, and finding ways to make things easier while staying as best as we can within the rules provided. We choose to access this system, this site, in search of rewards, and this is the journey we agree upon when we do that. There’s nothing holding any of us here if we don’t like it.
Some understanding of Bambu’s apparent goals helps us to understand and navigate those rules. We can argue about how feasible any of it is, but that doesn’t change the fact that these are the rules we have to deal with now.
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If waste is your main concern then the last thing you want to do is upload an unverified model and have users print it only to throw it in the bin.
I’ve printed dozens of prototypes for some of my designs and have large boxes filled with prints but I view it as the cost of development for high quality models. For popular models all those prototypes end up being just a tiny fraction of the total model prints but they go a long way to making sure the design isn’t just another piece of plastic in a landfill.
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Not sure it’s just about taking a picture of your design. I have downloaded designs with a lot of parts that fit together and found they are not even close to fitting together properly so the model will not work. If the designer has to print the model to take a picture of it he will find the parts will not fit and they will have to modify the parts so as they fit and make it function properly. So better the designer wastes a bit of plastic than everybody who downloads the model.
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