H2C Is on the Way — Here’s How It All Started

I don’t think they’ll damage anything… maybe they’ll damage Atomform instead…

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Price will be the killer I think, well for me anyway. I can’t see Bambu pricing it anywhere near the Snapmaker U1 with the H2S combo currently $2300 here in Australia.

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Why do you suppose Bambu chose to bolt their 6 shooter hotend changer onto a dual-hotend printhead instead of a mono-hotend printhead? Was it for sound engineering reasons, or was it to reinforce their product hierarchy?

Looks like you have to replace most of the toohead and part of bed system at least, to accomodate the Vortek though. Looks expensive.

Might be due to product hierarchy - but I quite like it - because you will still get the fastest tool changes between the left and right nozzles - as no need for filament rewinds, and potential of pre-heating.

Also I suppose TPU would possibly be able to work in the left nozzle, better than one of the 6 on the right.

Also it gives you 7 nozzles rather than 6.

I hope some of the 6 nozzles can be a mix of 0.2 and 0.4 and that they allow both to the used in the same print.

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I think it’s perfect but this is ridiculous. Why? Because after releasing 3 printers in a few months, a new printer was introduced and this nozzle system is ridiculous. Why? We could have made a head changing system like Snapmaker and Prusa and put 4+1 heads and each head would have 4 AMS, 5 feeders and actually installed 20 AMS systems. I hope this nozzle changing system will come to the X1C in the near future. I’m sooooo excited for this. I think it’s perfect but this is ridiculous why because after releasing 3 printers in a few months a new printer was introduced and this nozzle system is very ridiculous why can’t we make a head changing system like Snapmaker and Prusa and put 4+1 heads and each head will have 4 AMS and 5 feeders and we could actually install a 20 AMS system and I hope this nozzle changing system will come to the X1C in the near future I’m sooooooo excited for this

I commend Bambu for announcing this along with the H2S. Full transparency with customers in mind. This is the printer I was waiting for…I just didn’t know it until now.

Great job. Can’t wait.

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Actually, it can also be mounted on the H2S…

I thought 7 not 12… from the video

I have an idea incase it hasn’t already been considered: Preheat the nozzles while they are in the rack.

As the H2C uses induction heating, the rack can contain the induction coils for heating each nozzle and approximate temperature feedback can be provided via an infrared thermal sensor for each nozzle. This would get them to the right ballpark, ready for immediate use.

I’m glad they announced it as well, but these are business decisions, not decisions to be nice…

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I agree, it would be interesting to know if the Vortex system could carry different nozzle sizes. Handy to prototype in 0.8mm or do fine work in 0.2mm with the remaining 4 or 5 for colour/material changes, all by selecting in software rather than taking the hot end to bits to swap them out.

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I hope that Bambu has thought to have power available in the tool pockets, so that it can prestage the next tool and preheat that nozzle before it gets swapped into the tool head.

This would be seriously amazing.

The nozzle seems to be heated via induction in 8 seconds so preheating probably isn’t necessary.

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I will admit, I cancelled my U1 pledge after reading about this… I am a 100% Bambu printer house (A1 Mini, X1C, H2D) and introducing another vendor has no appeal… I am waiting for this thing…

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Right now, I’m running six 0.4 nozzles, 1 each for PLA, PETG, PC, ABS/ASA, PA, TPU, in addition to 0.2/0.6 ones. This way material contamination and mixing is entirely eliminated. Because 1. I can and 2. H2D nozzles have dead consistent hole diameter QCs, it’s a bit of an inconvenience but still less work than cleaning (cold pull etc.) pre- and afterwards.

I’m not holding breath as I don’t expect it to be a cheap upgrade, but this rack unironically will offer this sort of convenience even for multi-material rack but single-material printing :rofl:.

(I’ve found it to remove most of the hesitation if I just want to print random things, say, ABS, which I don’t use often, if I don’t have a nozzle just for it, the extra work of double cold pulls would often have dissuaded me from bothering. You can probably get away with extra extra purging, but that’s extra waste, and even more extra time down the road.)

I did the same thing… I am pretty sure that is why Bambu announced this a week before the Kickstarter close date.

Honestly my favorite part about all of that, haha. I am a fan of induction heating. It’s such a neat tech.

I think I am too. I like the whole of the ecosystem and everything working together. It makes for a smoother pipeline in a life that is too busy. I’ve thought about getting printers from other brands, but at the end of the day, eh. I’ve done that, been there, and these days I just want a smoother and more integrated experience.

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It may well be quite easy too to do manual nozzle changes if the nozzles aren’t held to firmly in the rack, or a simple release menu option is provided.

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The Bondtech INDX uses wireless hot ends and has patents on it. Not that it really matters to a Chinese company.

I’d much rather spend $500 to upgrade a large-volume Voron with the INDX than to have to deal with Bambu lock-in. Or, just spend $1000 to get a Snapmaker U1.

Bambu intentionally leaked this now, because there will be at least a couple of low-cost tool changing options available in quantity by November.

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