If all you want is a laser cutter and drag-knife cutter, you can get a far larger machine for much less cost if you just buy a machine that does that. Decent diode laser cutters can be had for <$500, and a Cricut cutter is equally inexpensive. Buy them both and you’ll be able to do stuff 3-4x bigger (or more) for much less than a H2D.
The work area is kind of small for a laser or knife cutter, IMO. If you were buying the machine with that in mind as the primary purpose, I think you’d quickly find it to be too limiting, space-wise.
My laser cutter does 12x20" and I find that to be too small for some projects.
I completely agree. I have had a laser cutter for nearly 5 years now. I have enjoyed it and made a bunch of things with it. But, I would never invite that mess into my 3D printer… I have to clean my laser far more frequently and have special equipment for venting and dealing with the fumes.
One of the things I loved about 3D printing when I got into it was less cleaning and less venting.
I think I will keep these two applications separated.
Now, if someone has never played with laser cutting this could be an expensive way to try it out. But if you seriously want to laser cut frequently, get a dedicated machine for that.
Yeah. That’s another good point. Laser cutters generate a lot of really fine particulate as well as gummy, sticky smoke (especially wood, which has resins or if it’s ply, glue). I have to clean all my mechanics and optics every 100-150 hours of run time depending on what I’ve been cutting. Once, I’ve had to take the machine apart enough to clean the ■■■■ off the electronics.
I’m going to assume BBL did what was necessary to ensure good external ventilation, and to keep most of the cutter swarf away from the electronics. But the laser rides on the same CoreXY mechanism that the printhead uses. No way to shield that from contamination. Might be why, at least in part they went to linear slides instead of sticking with rods. But still…
Just get a stand alone laser cutter. I have a 400x800mm and love it. It does pair great with 3D printing. I’ve been printing skeletons only and using my laser to make panels when needed. It really speeds things up when you have 60% less to print. Like drawers. Don’t print the whole thing. Print the frame and laser cut the panels for inserts or glue inside.
There’s quite a few options. But they are priced accordingly. There’s also fiber laser and diode lasers. If you want to do clear plexiglass. Then you need fiber.
If not, then any will do. Ortur, Xtool, Creality all have great lasers in an enclosed filtered box. Those are not 400x800 though. keep that in mind and goes for half or up to what Bambu is charging to just get the printer/laser combo. But the workspace in the Bambu is very limited. You will regret it as soon as you start getting into lasers.
I built my own enclosure for my 400x800 Ortur. I’m still waiting for my Tyvok S1 4’x8’ workspace to ship. It’s huge though. Do a little research to see which brand you go with. I’d stick with those three. And of course, get yourself a copy of LightBurn software.
Even if they released a laser only model - why would anyone buy it?
The software is deliberately crippled and it’ll never work with Lightburn
Comparable enclosed engravers are better and cheaper and work with lightburn
Higher quality enclosed engravers are better, cheaper and work with lightburn
The only current “benefit” is that there is also an FDM printer in the same enclosure, which isn’t a benefit, it’s a silly mismatch for so many reasons and it has been tried before
My recommendation for a cheap, high quality, easy to maintain 10w diode is, and I’m amazed I’m actually saying this, but the creality Falcon A1, their software is better than Bambu’s and it does a better job at teaching the basics (rather than simply hiding them) so you can graduate to Lightburn
If I want a good monitor, I probably won’t go to a tailor …
In other words: BL has tapped into this as another sector for itself - and they are new to it. You can see very clearly from their software who they have copied. xTool. They have been on the market long enough and have also established themselves. So if I want a standalone laser machine, I would most likely look at laser manufacturers - not at printer companies that have brought it out on the side.
Depending on the laser, you also have the option of using other (established) software. You can also choose the laser depending on what you want to do with it.
I like Bambu for 3D printers. I don’t like the software restrictions and whatever else is coming. Only if I need a laser, I don’t wait for my printer manufacturer to bring one onto the market when there are already numerous established companies.
I get your point, but it is sometimes easier to have one supplier - filament, and laser material. It makes it easier. And I dont’t think BL will stop now, that they started entering the laser world!
I would guess the latest next year we will get another laster device from BL
But … what exactly is supposed to be so much easier? If you’re not a complete banana, you’ll buy the things for lasering or foil cutting cheaper elsewhere anyway.
I’ve had their laser for years (since the beginning of xTool) - and I don’t think I’ve even bought any supplies for it from xTool. You can get everything cheaper elsewhere in larger quantities. Okay, I lied. I once bought laser-capable Apple Watch wristbands from xTool to try them out. But that was it. I get foils, acrylic and some jewellery pendants from Amazon - wood from the DIY store.
The software is also much more developed at companies that have been doing this for years. Take a look at xTools XCS App - and then Bambu Suite It looks like a clone. And there is certainly a reason for that.
you maybe right, I think the Laser is not mentioned for permanent cutting or engraving, it just gives me the ability to save some Space in my Printer-Room its only a 2mx2m with already 4 Printers a wash and Cure Machine and storage for anything I need to print. At least I just took the Laser Edition to use it from time to time without wasting Space for an unused Machine.
We will see.