I would like to buy it... but I'm worried

Being from the EU, I have no problems whatsoever regarding prices. What I was worried about is the way - or rather the shipping companies - shipping has been done which seems to be a problem for quite a lot of people. My machine worked right out of the box for like 100+ hours now. Was it a seamless experience like the A1/Mini? No, it wasn’t. I had to educate myself to get things working correctly because not everything has been dialed in “correctly” (needs tweaking). But then I was also aware of the fact that I am an “early adopter” of a totally new machine.

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May I ask which things specifically? I feel like I also need to tweaks some things, but unsure where to start.

@simpletom Mainly filament profiles. An existing profile that works well on another printer is a good starting place, but you may need to fine-tune some settings. The good news is that H2D automatic pressure advance works really well. On the other hand, the automatic flow rate calibration, if you relied on it on the X1C, is completely gone. You’ll need to do it manually now if you want to fine tune it. Maximum flow rate: you’ll have to find or build your own model if you want to re-test it, but so far I’m finding it close to other printers, maybe slightly better. Temperature tower: already mentioned.

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I think your mileage may be variable :slight_smile: I mostly print miniatures with Sunlu PLA + and a 0.2 nozzle. And, they all came out quite acceptable - but not as good as on my X1C or most importantly on my A1Mini. To be honest, I’m still testing: I ordered 1+ KG of support material in order to print pre-supported stuff. It worked … and then it didn’t … :slight_smile: As much as I would like to tell you … I’m not there yet., I will have to play around with settings and I’m quite new to the game :smiley: Let’s say, to be continued …

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Have you changed anything in regards to the purge volume of the 0.2 nozzles? I tried them the other day and it purged so much that it almost clogged the nozzle completely.

I ordered a new table and made sure it could fit 2!

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Which table did you settle on? My thinking is more like separate tables, each a little bigger than the footprint of the printer on it, but otherwise air-gapped from one another, to avoid conveying vibration from one printer to the other.

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I love my H2D. The quality of prints and overhangs I had with my P1S with the same Sunlu filament. H2D was nearly perfect. on the one print I did on my P1S. The wife said it looks nicer than my P1S, considering how much bigger the H2D is, lol.
Also, I like how you can just brush filament on your hand—no ridge from the bottom of the printer. So no need for a Hoover.

I ordered this random one on Amazon DE, at 120x50 - it is just big enough front-back and I can gap them side-side. It’s height adjustable - so I can have it low and I can stack my AMS’s on top of the machine and still reach the top one.

I think the wheels will be handy.

I ordered for 144€ a few days ago

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Let the product mature don’t be the guinea pig unless you willing to roll wit them bugs and js keep the reports going if the product ain’t for you it’s not for you it’s that simple.

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I’m waiting for my H2D combo (without laser) next week, and what I’m reading is not encouraging at all. Meanwhile, with the 2.X software, X1C and P1P, I got lots of adhesion issues and print failures on the files that I never got issues with in the previous version. Now I just downgrade the software.

Clearly, introducing H2D messed up the Studio. Hope they manage to sort it out in the near future.

I’m wondering what the period is that I can return the H2D printer in case everything goes wrong? I’m from the EU. Or can I return the H2D and get in return another X1C + one P1S?

I was looking at them a few weeks ago on Amazon UK. They look good, but I have to wait till my log cabin has been built in a few weeks, I hope…

Good idea, didn’t think of that. Going to try your suggestion. But indeed, I was also under the impression that a lot of material was purged.

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Not sure where you are located but waiting is a no brainer for us in the USA. Looks at the bright side, orange man willing, by the time this tariff poo is figured out, all the bugs will be worked out (mostly :crossed_fingers: )

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I’ve been using this desk for my printers. The H2D fits nicely on it!

I’m gonna move soon though, and am aiming to build a custom cabinet for my printers. Maybe. We’ll see.

There’s obviously some first release bugs, but nothing super huge. I don’t feel like a beta tester. I don’t feel like this is the No Man’s Sky of 3d printers. It’s a complete product, just needs a little polish.

I’m impressed with the overall product though. There’s a lot of little things about it that really stand out and engage me as a user. It’s hard to list it all because it’s just like… everything.

I like the added side windows. The brighter chamber. Haha, the bottom being flat so you can scoop out stray bits better. I like that the door opens fully now. I like the improved filters, and the way the machine does more to regulate it’s chamber temperature. I like the new nozzles. I like that we’re not doing the crazy lidar flow lines of the X1C. I like the new spool holder for external spools. I like the new AMS 2 Pro. I like some of the UI improvements, and better reporting, like how with the AMS 2 Pro it gives a % for humidity now. I like the new nozzle wiper and stuff. Not sure it’s perfect, but with PETG-HF, I’ve been getting less build up on the nozzle.

The size is just big enough, but not too big. It’s the goldilocks of 3d printers. I know some made a huge deal about how they wanted it bigger, this, that, and something else. I think those people are foolish though. If it was any bigger, it’d be too big. It barely fits on my desk now, but it barely fits in a good way. It isn’t over flowing. It’s just… just right. I’ve had larger printers, and they are frustrating to deal with. If the machine was any bigger, the size alone would start to cut into sales, as most people realistically wouldn’t have room for an even larger machine.

Frankly, I’d like to see an updated X1C with some of these improvements. I don’t think we would see a dual headed X1C, but if we got a refreshed X1C that implemented some of the new tech for flow rate calibration, and the new nozzles. Along with the chamber vents opening/closing like the H2D does. A refreshed case that gives us a flat bottom and better lighting like the H2D has too.

Not everything will be perfect all the time. Some machines are duds, some are messed up in shipping because Joe Fedex had a bad day and wanted to throw the box instead of use a dolly.

I remember once, I got a laptop. One of those Microsoft surface laptops. The model I got, I loved it. It was awesome and just. Yeah. It ended up having power issues though and died. Covid was crashing down hard at the time too, and I wasn’t able to get it fixed because of that. I could have easily just blamed it all on Microsoft. It was one of those moments in life though that I sat back and kind of realized that no, it’s a great product, I’m just the unlucky one that got a dud this time.

It’s easy sometimes to look at the complaints and issues and try and pin that on the product as a whole, but sometimes we need to step back and look at the picture as a whole too. Duds and shipping issues will be out there. For a lot of products, it’s the majority of what we’ll see on the internet too, as most people that own the product without fault are happily using it. They don’t need to be on a forum complaining about it, because it works.

On the flip side of the issues the H2D has been presented with, I’ve also talked to a number of people that are absolutely in love with the machine. One of my friends, that’s a bit more hardcore into the 3d printing than me. He got a H2D, and I was surprised to hear him talking about the second one he’s gonna get. It opened my eyes a little. I love my machine, but have had a moment of wondering if I’m just blindly chasing, or if it actually is as good as I feel. Seeing that friend talk about his experience and wanting another though made me realize yeah, it is a great machine.

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I was critical of the machine before learning the full details (just having the teasers). But once it was in hand, I was thoroughly impressed. My main point of contention was it’s complexity. It is significantly more complex, and as such I do expect that it will be significantly more difficult to repair. But I don’t know that it will be significantly less reliable. It seems Bambu reliable to me. But if you push the limits, or like to do things it was not designed to do… yeah, I’d probably pass. I can see people doing odd things with it and causing lots of issues. IMO, it is very much on the limit, and I think people have become numb to those limits. So… for those looking to push it further, just expect there may be a negative outcome. But for those that use it the way it was designed to be used, it should be fine. I know that’s asking a lot because (by a wide margin) the folks buying 3D printers like to do their own thing. But we’ll have to wait and see to know for sure how reliability works out and how tolerant it is to experimentation.

Not all. There is a big thread of poor print quality on H2d. Same slicer setting, same roll of filament. On p1s clean and perfect print, on h2d tons of stinging and layer artifacts.

I have the bamboo lab X1 carbon and I have a clicking stuttering the filament doesn’t go all the way into the extruder to print I have seen forums with multiple people having this problem before I have replaced the hot end head the filament sensor The nylon tubing the extruder gears I have tried external spool I tried going previous update and then back to the recent update I can’t figure it out The only thing I could think of is to keep replacing parts they won’t write me back or maybe it takes so long to get a response for some reason but I would very much appreciate advice that anyone has on this problem

@two4one Given that it’s your first post, just a friendly reminder that your question is fine but it belongs on an X1C thread rather than the H2D thread. If everything gets mixed together, it becomes a mess.

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To be clear, I LOVE my H2D.
We have had a clogged nozzle, some calibration nonsense, and a bit otherwise. The buffer in the back is a pain in the butt and the PTFE tubes are finicky… But it’s the X1C’s big brother and I think it’s a joy.

I can’t wait for the second (a laser combo H2D) to get here this Friday!

I don’t post my sheer happiness because I know most people are waiting on theirs, and some haven’t had a great experience.

When the X1Cs eventually die (may it be another 4k hours each) I could see another H2D in the future.

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