I was happy to move from my P1S to the new H2D…but now after few weeks from its launch I’m really worried.
Lot of issues seems to coming up, probably it is better to wait.
What are your tought?
I was happy to move from my P1S to the new H2D…but now after few weeks from its launch I’m really worried.
Lot of issues seems to coming up, probably it is better to wait.
What are your tought?
A newly released model will always have bugs to work out. It is just the nature of the beast. The issues are normally addressed pretty quickly. If this is an problem for you then wait till the model hardware/firmware matures.
I will say that it is good to remember that people will post when they have issues but rarely will post when a printer just works. Ie reading the forum will seem like there are tons of issues but in reality it is only a small amount of users. Also remember that sometimes it is just because new users are not as experienced in 3d printing that are having issues.
Have one, works flawlessly so far. With tariffs and an itch to do more, ordered parts to make Voron 2.4 R2, and will be printing everything else with the H2D.
Really looking for Stealthchanger (multiple toolhead) so I can easily print multicolor TPU.
So far it rivals my X1C in reliability, but it’s much larger. Zero complaints, and I’ve got 323 print hours so far. I’ve mixed TPU and PETG which previously on my P1Ses would require manual swapping. I’ve done large plates full of small polycarbonate parts that I would only risk with glue previously.
Dual nozzles makes a lot of previously wasteful color prints ‘free’, and makes PETG/PLA support setups much quicker. I have a laser combo on the way as well, and I tried to get a 3rd pre-tariffs but was unsuccessful. I can’t speak to whether or not the laser is worth it yet, but printer-wise it’s top notch.
I’d also say it’s a technical machine rather than what marketing would make it appear. There’s already a few posts here that I’d chalk up to speed discontinuity issues. That would have been apparent on X1/P1 machines, but apparently the marketing makes the H2D seem flawless out of the box. Then there’s the support material thing with interface speed, which wasn’t really anything new. Again, “it just works” was a poor choice.
Bottom line is, if you’ve got no experience in tinkering these settings, then the H2D is ‘plagued with bad profiles’ and the like. If on the other hand, you’ve done this a lot with the older machines like moonrakerone, then I don’t think you’d have an issue.
Just my observations. That’s not to say there aren’t some technical bugs, nothing production run and packaging optimizations won’t fix in a few months. Profiles for supports and other things though, I don’t think we’ll ever get to the point-and-click holy grail. There’s a reason why this stuff is in the wiki with various settings for each combo scenario.
with any tech i personally like to waIT 6 MONTHS TO A YEAR BEFORE PULLING THE TRIGGER on a purchase. Every new tech needs to mature and have the bugs worked out
Many issues are usually user related. Not always the machine.
I doubt two thing with this new printer.
First that it was developed with the goal of being as reliable and lasting as possible.
Secondly that ALL machines will reach their users free of defects and/or loose things that might cause issues at a later stage.
That however does not mean it is a bad machine because there is always a few lemons out there - no matter the manufacturer.
I had a dual head printer before and in hindsight going with a P1S combo to replace it was a step back, not forward.
Well, not in terms of print speed and some other factors but this single head is far from ideal.
The H2S seemed like a logical step forward, so why I did I not jump onto the pre-order offer I got from Bambu ?
New toys often comes with kinks, flaws and issues.
Most are fixable and if not you get the new parts required under warranty.
But from what I have seen so far this new printer is not as advanced and high end as I expected it to be for a flagship model.
Yes, it is a great design, one trying to keep things as compact as possible…
But it is also ‘just’ a lightbulb thing for me - like with Edison who did not invent the lightbulb.
Still a core-x machine, still using more than common mechanical drive solutions, still just a dual head system with build in limitations and restrictions caused by or based on the design decisions made.
A fantastic machine for most but for me still quite far from I would expect from a dual head printer.
Don’t take my expectations as a requirement though as I not the average user
Many people spend a lot of money on things they don’t really need, like drones, a second car for the weekends to impress the other sex, collectibles,…
A printer is still just a machine and one the owner has to have use for to justify having it.
But I see more and more people who jump directly into the deep end of the pool because they have the money to spare and no financial worries on the horizon.
“I’m new here and just sorted with my first printer and have a few questions…” - saw posts like this more times than I count but these days their first printer is often top of the line…
What came first here, our ‘need to print things’ or machines and software combos claiming that even a total noob can get outstanding prints right out of the box
Impulse buying …
Bumbu has a working support and warranty system, not always the fastest to react but still better than some other companies I have to deal with.
Compared to the market their prices are not bad either, still to highly priced but that is normal since the pandemic.
The decision should not be based on whether you are worried or not, just based on on whether YOU think the price is acceptable.
And well you should be aware of the Bambu policies for security and privacy…
There is plenty of other options out there and there will always be new models coming…
Choice is yours.
i’m waiting on my order to ship as well and i understand how you feel. i’m not saying the h2d is flawless, but remember that in forums etc usually happy/content people aren’t posting in them and you’ll typically see a high amount of issues chatter instead.
I completely agree. People only post the negative.
Deleted, will do my own research.
Just buy it, don’t waste your time waiting around for months and months and watching thousands of reviews going “but is it perfect?” - you could be gaining experience and doing cool projects in that time.
To balance out some of the negative reporting bias, I’ll add that mine has been going perfectly.
Well, I have a pretty clear idea of this new 3D printer. Currently, the purchase corresponds to having a product that is on average in a situation of 30% defects (perhaps it is better to say youth problems that can certainly be resolved over time) and 70% no significant problems (I extrapolated the percentages above by reading various forums and various news, so they are my personal consideration).
I have not considered the use of the laser but only of 3D printing.
At this point I have decided that I can wait. Yes, I would have a mad desire to buy it but I do not intend to fall into the aforementioned 30%, I will rely on my P1S (which I had to change with X1C, but the release of the new H2D has thrown me off) for a few more months, then I will take the big step.
Thank you all for your toughts and comments.
I’m curious as to where this data comes from?
As I wrote this is my personal thought and consideration based on information I retrieved from forum, reviews, etc. And as I wrote not defect but youth issues (could be software, could be slicer settings, could be some sensor adjustment…)
I repeat it is only my personal consideration which I use to decide if it better to wait before to do the big step. Thats all.
For us in the usa, it is wait 6 months to a year and pray the stupid tariffs go away.
Hello, before I ordered the printer, I was plagued by the same thoughts as you and I also considered starting a thread like this. I actually wanted to wait a few more months, but then I thought, why not just buy it now, and I ordered it as soon as it was available again.
I watched a lot of reviews on YouTube, read a lot, and also followed the discussions here in the forum.
In the end, I concluded that the majority of opinions are positive. It seems that there aren’t really any major hardware issues — and that was the most important thing for me. Finding the perfect slicer settings takes a bit of time, but that’s not a big deal.
Here in the forum, the main problems seem to be damaged printers during shipping.
Everything else seems pretty normal to me.
And if you check out the X1C forum, you’ll notice that even though that printer has been on the market for quite a while, there are still recurring issues there too.
I like my H2D a lot. Have had a few minor things that are fixable through firmware updates. I want another though. It’s a joy to use.
I have the same fears as you, but as has been pointed out, you can’t base the statistics on what you’ve read.
A much higher percentage of people with issues than those without them post about it.
@IGBTsat Unless you plan to use only Bambu filament, I’d wait on buying one until, at minimum, a viable H2D temperature tower is either included in the Bambu slicer or posted on makerworld. There is no Orca slicer for H2D at the present time, and maybe never, so you can’t access an Orca slilcer temperature tower.
It doesn’t matter how many reviews you watch. AFAIK, not a single reviewer has mentioned this missing feature. So, that gives you at least some idea as to how thorough they test before posting a review: not very thorough.