No idea. I suspect my hands are too weak to get them latched properly.
@SVDB I like to run at 50mm/ps, so you dont need a fast printer.
If this was an American product, do you think they would make it open source?
I’m more of the opinion, they’d most probably prevent you from using any other filament brand. I think it’s convenient enough.
I almost dropped the hammer on a Flipper purchase last night, specifically for the purpose of “sniffing” the AMS to see what it’s using and maybe learn something about the protocol. But it’d be low on my project list so I figured to wait, I’ll get the thing, play with it for 30 minutes, and then put it away in favor of something with a higher priority.
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@RocketSled Well, ill save you the trouble. I have already sniffed, cloned and even replayed the tag with my flipper. Big thanks to the bambu research group contributors for doing 80% of the hard work for me.
@all
As for the conspirators. I don’t or didnt see any attempt from bambu in software to “block or control” this. Its all industry standard sh+t. There isn’t anything stopping other filament manufacturers from copying and cloning, aside from cost that is and the fact that they can only really use generic filament profiles. And lets talk about cost, because bambu filaments are fairly price competitive when you consider the cost of purchasing the equipment and tags to replicate these tags. Your cheap $20 PLA turns into a cheap $20 PLA + whatever ridiculous amount of money and time you spend trying to add tags to your generic filament. Whoopy do bud, just use the screen lol
Overall, when I first read this forum I got curious, because I love the technical side of things.
And now im bored.
There is nothing here.
Its not some anti competitive move by bambu, its just good engineering.
Your demands (by “your” i mean all the complainers on here, not specifically one person) that bambu allow you to change or reprogram the tags or allow you to create your own tags is ridiculous. First of all it would add allot more cost and complexity to the AMS, and put more strain on software development. For what? How does any of that benefit bambu? Its selfish to demand. If your here demanding, there’s something wrong with you.
Anyways thats it.
Im done with this thread, case closed.
See you guys on the next one
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No, the AMS and its software would keep untouched.
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I’ve saved tags from the Bambu filaments, seem to work when attached to other filaments.
Wish I knew. They seem securely locked when I put them in the AMS. I suspect it is my karma. Had to remove back and plug in Z axis connector when machine first arrived in March. Everything worked well for a week. Several nozzle plugged, to be expected I assume, this is my first 3D printer. Extruder plugged, probably damp filament, I live by an ocean. Ordered a complete hotend unit because thermistor none functional after I changed hotend (2 previous changes no problems). Complete hotend in machine and fan speed not acceptable. I’ve tried the spin correction. Did not solve the problem. Maybe I’ll try rewinding the carbon filament, unspiralled across the AMS, and put it in to dry. That might help the fan speed. :)). Jean
It’s annoying that they still haven’t provided this. They could easily have some generic ones. Perhaps they’re worried that if they sold their Bambu ones separately, someone would start slapping them on non-Bambu filaments and selling as original. But, having generic PLA, PETG, etc, really, what’s the bloody problem? OTOH, as one poster pointed out, it’s not a huge issue for me now, I’ve gotten used to it. I almost always use the same kind of filament in my AMS, so the rare times I use something else, I either use the external feed or just change the type in the app. Still, would be nice. Bambu makes everything else so easy, why make this hard?
“Bambu makes everything else so easy, why make this hard?”
Honestly that’s the part that surprises me, since everything else is so user friendly. I’m not new to RFID chips in filament, my Dremel printers all used it as well, but much like Dremel, I only used the branded filament a quarter of the time, so I got used to not relying on an RFID system. I think it’d be fantastic if Bambu either let us buy RFIDs for other spools or worked with other manufacturers to add them to their filaments. (Hopefully Amolen, since they’re who I buy from the most right now!)
The price for Bambu PLA is £24.99 in the UK yet they will sell you as much as you want when ordering your printer for £15.99 which is a massive difference, surely the increase in sales if they allowed owners to buy at this less expensive price point or at least match other manufacturers prices would work out better for all involved, and while they are at it they should come up with some better colours!
Typically when a company makes a decision that doesn’t seem to make sense, it’s due to one thing - money.
My guess is they either want to give their filament a competitive advantage, thereby making you prefer to buy Bambu filament over others or to be able to license the access to other companies.
Wouldn’t it be easier to just allow users to use brand profiles, where you have the dimensions of the spool or the weight of the empty spool (who woudnt buy a 10€ kitchen scale for this) and bam! Its working! Only downside is you have to enter weight everytime you load a spool…but who cares!! I could easily live with that solution…
The AMS knows nothing about the weight of the spools… the remaining quantity is calculated via the rolling circumference.
Did i said it did? Theres no scale nor a need for one…Just need to input a couple of parameters and the printer can do basic math…And for sure it will never be as precise as the rev counter that the ams as…
I’ve never bought Bambu filament and never will. I use www.3DQF.co.uk filaments as I’ve found it to be the amazing quality and reasonably priced and free shipping over £16 or £17. They are quickly moving over to AMS compatible spools. Really good company to deal with. I’m not affiliated with them.
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Exactly… In an interview months ago, BL’s CEO stated that they were negotiating with filament makers to use their RFID tag system.
So unless the business model fails, I doubt that this will be made available to everyone.
The BambuLab filaments are good quality, I love the RFID feature, and I LOVE that their spools come apart. The introductory discounted filament price during the first six months is a little high, but still worth it in my opinion. After 6 months, the filament prices become ridiculously stupid.
My plan is to buy 48 unique rolls of Bambu-RFID filament over the course of 6 months. I created a spreadsheet for all my orders containing the material type, sheen, color name, color example, and most importantly - the Hex color code.
When a spool runs out, I will either store the labeled RFID tag for later use or buy a generic brand that has a very similar Hex color code.
It’s not a perfect plan, but like the OP, I too really like having an estimated remaining quantity available for remote monitoring. I also love it when the AMS auto-switches to another roll of the same color when the original runs out.
I believe that there are only 2 RFID readers in the AMS. Each spool comes with 2 RFID tags, one on each side, so that the AMS can always read one of the 2 tags no matter what slot it is placed in.
With some careful planning, or an easy way to move an RFID from one side of a spool to the other, we wouldn’t need to have 2 tags on every spool. If we added a little pocket on the outside of the spool (or even just tape), we could easily move 1 tag to be on the correct side (as needed).
This means we could trade the surplus RFID tags amongst ourselves.
We could potentially double our personal RFID libraries at the cost of mailing a few letters.
I’m doing the same thing - I’ve got quite a collection of cardboard inserts building up. Technically I think there are actually 4 RFID readers - 2 between slots 1&2 and 2 between slots 3&4
I think I might make some sort of screw in middles to hold the RFIDs in the right place.
Single RFIDs on spools do work - you just need to make sure that the spools are correctly placed in either odd or even slots.
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I started my journey hoarding the tags with a similar goal, somewhere along the line I’ve drifted and it seems less important for all but the staple basic colours I use. Given the recent drought of stock I’ve decided to cancel those plans and stick to the standard calibration when I get a new spool of offbrand and respool it to a printed Bambu spool. The tags are sweet and the option to get refills nice, but no more after this month.
I’d love to see them open to editing but I’m not holding my breath, aftermarket probably won’t be 100% compatible and workarounds just get bothersome. The way I see it, I’m doing the calibration regardless of brand, the only thing I’d honestly miss is the capacity guesstimate.