Is Kitbashing remixing?

Is kitbashing remixing?

a part of a model i uploaded got added to another model someone else had on thingiverse and now someone is calling those remixed.

I do really like the idea of remixes but I don’t think there is a resource out there for newbies to fully grasp what a remix is. If users are trying to be malicious they would not even link to the original model they stole the design from. I feel like them adding the url of the model they are “remixing”.

I don’t necessarily want to default to reporting the user.

How else would you suggest users share adjustments to a model that add on to the originals purpose that go beyond the print profile settings?

What did you set your copyright licensing to?

Does this allow kit bashing. Usually when I remix a model I do a good amount of tweaks to it. I don’t think this person did anything except for add my model to another model. Thats why I’m asking if kitbashing is remixing.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/

If there were actual adjustments then I think this is a fine route to go. But basically they took 1 stl and added it to another. I was just curious if that is remixing.

I think “Remixing” is quite nuanced.

But the licensing link you sent says:
" 1. Adapt — remix, transform, and build upon the material"

Technically they “built” upon you model by adding more “whatever” to it.

I don’t like the “remix” licensing just for that reason.
There is no cut and dry line where you can say… “it’s different enough”.

I think you might even overlook this part of the license:

Even if they didn’t change anything they are still allowed to redistribute your design. I’m of the opinion that this isn’t proper to do but it is still allowed.

So let’s say you have a scale between duplicate and full remix, your question was essentially where on this scale it falls. But I would argue it doesn’t matter since both ends of the spectrum are ok to share with attribution

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Thanks for this. This is what I was looking for. I guess I should have looked at the license alittle closer. After seeing this remixing it actually doesn’t matter at all. So you answered my question. Kitbashing is allowed under the right licensing.

Man overall that’s kind of scary. You could just pull a bunch of models over from thingiverse of other designers and as long as you follow the license you could make a good amount of points off of it.

Yes, and that is where it becomes a grey area again. A lot of websites (MakerWorld including) do not allow for straight up reuploads of other peoples work and it is in general not good practice. That said I believe kitbashing is ok as a remix, they can be like 3D memes. And I also support anybody willing to put up their models as remixable, even though I have my bigger designs as SDF for the time being

Man overall that’s kind of scary. You could just pull a bunch of models over from thingiverse of other designers and as long as you follow the license you could make a good amount of points off of it.

Too many people already have, is there no honor among designers anymore?

There is honour amongst designers, the question is though, are the people you refer to designers?

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Same. I wish more models were remixable but then you have bad actors out there trying to just gain the points rather than making something better for the community. I have been making more of my models SDF as well. I don’t like that I have to do that but right now it seems to be the best way to keep things from getting out of hand.

Some people add extra bits and bobs and want to share them with people who download my stuff but they get lost if the just upload it as an original piece. So they want to share it as a remix.

There is honour amongst designers, the question is though, are the people you refer to designers?

That right there, is a very good point. Hats off for you sir.

I think one of the points most people forget or fail to do is the ……”with attribution”……

That seems to be one if the most common aspects I see. It’s often because their either: not informed of how/what to do or simply don’t care or want to be “bothered” by identifying all the creators individual work that went into the kitbash….

I kitbash too, yet include links for each part and do my honest best to make sure all are attributed. Sure there is always possibility of neglecting to identify/include one, but that’s different if an honest mistake, and totally different if thats out of pure neglect/honesty

I find it humorous (not really) when I see someone’s profile of models and they have a detailed complex model yet there are only a handful of others that are straight up basic geometry…. Yet claiming to have done the first when it’s clear they did not (especially when I know the individual who truly created it to begin with)

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